setuporg Posted May 17, 2020 Share #1 Posted May 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is this for real? Hangs on the homepage of Fred Miranda: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Hi setuporg, Take a look here Laowa 9mm rectilinear?!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ERA23 Posted May 17, 2020 Share #2 Posted May 17, 2020 I have seen it around the rumor site for a while, looks real enough! I do wonder how sharp it is in real life use 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted May 18, 2020 Share #3 Posted May 18, 2020 Cosina/Voigtlander make a 10mm rectilinear, and have had various 12mms for 20 years or so. Nikon had a 13mm f/5.6 in the 1970s: Not all that long a walk to 9mm, especially since specced focal lengths are often "rounded" to the nearest whole number. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted May 18, 2020 Share #4 Posted May 18, 2020 Google search leads to original article with embedded yt video. Pre-production unit on review. According to pictures in this article from this lens, "rectliner" lens is something which gives straight lines, but they are all crooked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 18, 2020 Share #5 Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: According to pictures in this article from this lens, "rectlinear" lens is something which gives straight lines, but they are all crooked. I'm not so sure, Ko.Fe.; I've just had a look and as far as I can see the ones where there is curvature of straight elements were mainly seen in those images shot on the Fuji GFX 50R and, to a lesser extent, on the Canon. The 'straight-bits' in the shots taken on the Leicas looked pretty straight to me but I didn't download anything to check it in Photoshop. 9mm is not a focal-length I can ever see me using but nice to see someone thinks its manufacture is worthwhile! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 19, 2020 Share #6 Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 12:23 AM, ERA23 said: I have seen it around the rumor site for a while, looks real enough! I do wonder how sharp it is in real life use ... and I do wonder how useful it is in real life... 🙄 a funny exercise, anyway... and they'll surely sell some, if made... Personally... when I switch from my Elmarit 21 asph to my CV 15... I always tend to think "wow ! exaggerate ! but sometime can be useful.." 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted May 19, 2020 Share #7 Posted May 19, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 5 Stunden schrieb luigi bertolotti: .. and I do wonder how useful it is in real life... You have doubts whether it is useful to see your toes on most photos you shoot?😚 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted May 19, 2020 6 hours ago, UliWer said: You have doubts whether it is useful to see your toes on most photos you shoot?😚 The easily identifiable toes could even replace and become the artist's signature! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 20, 2020 Share #9 Posted May 20, 2020 7 hours ago, setuporg said: The easily identifiable toes could even replace and become the artist's signature! ...too little for being recognized, with a 9mm 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, luigi bertolotti said: ...too little for being recognized, with a 9mm 😆 paint them purple then!:) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 20, 2020 Share #11 Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 11:52 AM, luigi bertolotti said: .. and I do wonder how useful it is in real life... 🙄 I don't know about the Laowa 9 mm (or how sharp it might be) but I've been using the Voigtlander 10/5.6 for a while, Luigi, and it's a really fun lens. You can get really close to the subject and have lots of environment around it to play with because of the natural depth of field offered by the ultra-wide field of view. It gives you a completely different perspective, which is quite useful for some subjects. It's really important to keep it level because 'keystoning' takes over very quickly if you don't. The lens was about 6 inches away from the bread in this picture. Pete. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with CV 10/5.6 Ultra-wide Heliar. 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 with CV 10/5.6 Ultra-wide Heliar. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/309675-laowa-9mm-rectilinear/?do=findComment&comment=3977314'>More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted May 21, 2020 @farnz really cool! Does 10mm make sense except in rare situations? Does 12mm make more sense? CV is also f5.6. I have the WATE and a CV 21/1.4, and wonder what makes sense closer... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted May 21, 2020 Share #13 Posted May 21, 2020 As lens technology progresses so too does our ability to utilise it. This has been the case ever since photography was invented. The last areas where significant optical refinements are likely are in wide-angle design (focal length and speed) and fast zooms. Everything else is pretty well fit for purpose and only nuances of improvement are likely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 21, 2020 Share #14 Posted May 21, 2020 2 hours ago, setuporg said: @farnz really cool! Does 10mm make sense except in rare situations? Does 12mm make more sense? CV is also f5.6. I have the WATE and a CV 21/1.4, and wonder what makes sense closer... Thanks. I think it's another way of 'seeing' and encourages you to consider what scenes would lend themselves to ultra-wide where there are strong foreground and background elements that blend in a single shot. So a different perspective from, say, 50 mm. I've never used the 12 mm but I've had and used the CV 15/4.5 Super-wide Heliar for many years and the 10 mm just allows you to get a bit closer. The 15/4.5's close focus distance is 300 mm but with the depth of field available from such a wide angle lens, in reality objects closer than 300 mm will be acceptably in focus with a narrow aperture and the same for the 10 mm (500 MFD) so I imagine it would be similar for the Laowa 9 mm too. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 21, 2020 Share #15 Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, pgk said: As lens technology progresses so too does our ability to utilise it. This has been the case ever since photography was invented. The last areas where significant optical refinements are likely are in wide-angle design (focal length and speed) and fast zooms. Everything else is pretty well fit for purpose and only nuances of improvement are likely. You're maybe right... but if only I think to the hundreds of posts in this forum about those nuances in the trivial "28 to 90" area... 😉 😁 Edited May 21, 2020 by luigi bertolotti 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted May 22, 2020 Why is there no Laowa 12/2.8 in M mount? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted May 22, 2020 Share #17 Posted May 22, 2020 I remember pico used to love the Voigtlander 10mm f5.6 too. He was often singing it's praises. I miss pico's input. ... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 22, 2020 Share #18 Posted May 22, 2020 Am 19.5.2020 um 18:42 schrieb UliWer: You have doubts whether it is useful to see your toes on most photos you shoot?😚 Toes. my foot. What about the belly? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted May 22, 2020 Share #19 Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, pop said: Toes. my foot. What about the belly? I wonder if I said it was a 'slimming aid' I would get away with buying one? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted July 2, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 2, 2020 There's a work in progress review on both M10 and Sony: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-laowa-9mm-5-6-ff-rl/ Looks good, like most Laowa lenses 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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