darkinners Posted February 28, 2020 Share #81 Posted February 28, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 21 hours ago, tjxism said: Hey Darkinner, any luck getting your camera back? Hey man, unfortunately, Master Lo is moving office now, So he won't have time to fully disassembly until early March, so in short, not yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BKimelb1 Posted February 28, 2020 Share #82 Posted February 28, 2020 Let me interject some other positive thoughts into this thread. I just bought the legendary vintage Nikon F2SB and shot a few rolls. The test photos came back fine but it was hard to focus and get the exposure set even though I have used a Nikkormat FTN since 1971. This is a much longer experience than with Leica!!! For comparison, I pulled out my MP and shot a roll with my lux. It was like an old friend. Easy to focus and and find the correct exposure even on two moving kittens in low light. FYI when I first got the MP I had problems with the film not loading right and it took awhile to get used to the "quick load system". I lost two rolls due to the learning curve. Also forgot to turn off the meter by turning the shutter to B/OFF and used up batteries too fast. Now I love the quick load and never forget to shut down the meter (batteries are not easy to find). I think MP for mechanical perfection is well earned even if I wish the ASA dial were metal:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxism Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share #83 Posted March 1, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 9:48 AM, darkinners said: Hey man, unfortunately, Master Lo is moving office now, So he won't have time to fully disassembly until early March, so in short, not yet I called the repair shop and they told me they are unable to locate the issue and need to send the camera back to Germany. I’ll take the camera back as I have a coming trip next week. I’ll have to live with this issue (the scratch is less visible if scanned with a digital camera) for now. I’ll check again when I’m back from my trip. Hope master Lo can fix your camera so I don’t need to send mine back to Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediumformula Posted March 1, 2020 Share #84 Posted March 1, 2020 6 hours ago, tjxism said: I called the repair shop and they told me they are unable to locate the issue and need to send the camera back to Germany. I’ll take the camera back as I have a coming trip next week. I’ll have to live with this issue (the scratch is less visible if scanned with a digital camera) for now. I’ll check again when I’m back from my trip. Hope master Lo can fix your camera so I don’t need to send mine back to Germany Damn, we both ended up having to have our cameras sent back to Germany. I haven't had mine for a couple weeks now 😕 Not sure when it's coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landiah Posted March 3, 2020 Share #85 Posted March 3, 2020 Just got a brand new M-A after seeing all these posts and having issues with my brand new MP purchased earlier this year I thought no way the M-A would have any issues. Manufactured December 2019, I am guessing it is the Most recent batch. The M-A is scratching the negatives. It can be heard when the film is wound back, I ran a few tests and sure enough scratches all across the negatives. Can’t say I am surprised. Nothing that Leica won’t fix but I am surprised at the quality of these cameras out of the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxism Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share #86 Posted March 3, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 5:50 AM, mediumformula said: Damn, we both ended up having to have our cameras sent back to Germany. I haven't had mine for a couple weeks now 😕 Not sure when it's coming back. Try think on the bright side, at least you didn’t “waste” a few more weeks with a local repair shop and end up sending the camera back to Germany all the same. I have no complaints about the repair shop though. They are reputable and experienced. They confirmed the pressure plate works fine (the common reason for scratches). They worry they’ll jeopardize my warranty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinners Posted March 11, 2020 Share #87 Posted March 11, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 3/3/2020 at 12:37 PM, tjxism said: Try think on the bright side, at least you didn’t “waste” a few more weeks with a local repair shop and end up sending the camera back to Germany all the same. I have no complaints about the repair shop though. They are reputable and experienced. They confirmed the pressure plate works fine (the common reason for scratches). They worry they’ll jeopardize my warranty. update, just got the MP back from master Lo today, he said the scratching film issue is fixed, it was caused by poor assembly. However I am yet to test it, will let you know once I finished a roll of film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinners Posted March 17, 2020 Share #88 Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 12:37 PM, tjxism said: Try think on the bright side, at least you didn’t “waste” a few more weeks with a local repair shop and end up sending the camera back to Germany all the same. I have no complaints about the repair shop though. They are reputable and experienced. They confirmed the pressure plate works fine (the common reason for scratches). They worry they’ll jeopardize my warranty. So I tested 1 roll of film, confirm Master Lo fixed the scratching film problem. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjxism Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share #89 Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 4:18 PM, darkinners said: So I tested 1 roll of film, confirm Master Lo fixed the scratching film problem. Wow. Glad to hear that! I just asked meteor to send the camera to Germany! Maybe I can still get it back. Can you PM me master Lo’s contact? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinners Posted March 20, 2020 Share #90 Posted March 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, tjxism said: Wow. Glad to hear that! I just asked meteor to send the camera to Germany! Maybe I can still get it back. Can you PM me master Lo’s contact? Sure. I will PM you now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediumformula Posted March 20, 2020 Share #91 Posted March 20, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My MP just got back to me today. Now might not be the best time to send it out because you might not get it back for awhile during the pandemic. I was lucky to get mine back before things really started shutting down. Leica USA is closed at least till April 6. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My MP just got back to me today. Now might not be the best time to send it out because you might not get it back for awhile during the pandemic. I was lucky to get mine back before things really started shutting down. Leica USA is closed at least till April 6. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306263-no-more-mechanism-perfection%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=3935556'>More sharing options...
Yaakov Posted April 25, 2020 Share #92 Posted April 25, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 10:18 AM, darkinners said: So I tested 1 roll of film, confirm Master Lo fixed the scratching film problem. I’m having the same issue with a brand new MP from June’s 2029 batch, how much did you pay for the job, did he replace any part in the process? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted April 25, 2020 Share #93 Posted April 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Yaakov said: I’m having the same issue with a brand new MP from June’s 2029 batch, how much did you pay for the job, did he replace any part in the process? June's 2029 batch , really ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giannis Posted April 26, 2020 Share #94 Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Yaakov said: I’m having the same issue with a brand new MP from June’s 2029 batch, how much did you pay for the job, did he replace any part in the process? Your camera is under warranty. Return it for fixing for free or replacement if it's brand new. Don't bother with third party repairs, because first of all why pay when you can have it done for free by the actual people that made it, and secondly why void the warranty? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaakov Posted April 26, 2020 Share #95 Posted April 26, 2020 5 hours ago, giannis said: Your camera is under warranty. Return it for fixing for free or replacement if it's brand new. Don't bother with third party repairs, because first of all why pay when you can have it done for free by the actual people that made it, and secondly why void the warranty? Unfortunately I did not buy the camera locally, I purchase mine from an authorized dealer in Switzerland, import taxes and customs are extremely high in my country, you end up paying around %20 more, I can try sending it back but it’s going to be extremely expensive, if they accept taking it back I’ll probably go that route, with the current situation sending a camera to Germany will probably take forever and there will not guarantee that the problem it’s solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted April 26, 2020 Share #96 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Yaakov said: Unfortunately I did not buy the camera locally, I purchase mine from an authorized dealer in Switzerland, import taxes and customs are extremely high in my country, you end up paying around %20 more, I can try sending it back but it’s going to be extremely expensive, if they accept taking it back I’ll probably go that route, with the current situation sending a camera to Germany will probably take forever and there will not guarantee that the problem it’s solved I think you will probably find that, because the camera is within the warranty period, Leica will pay courier fees. etc. Contact the authorized dealer in Switzerland from whom you purchased it. They will send you a UPS label. Pete Edited April 26, 2020 by Stealth3kpl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaakov Posted April 26, 2020 Share #97 Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Stealth3kpl said: I think you will probably find that, because the camera is within the warranty period, Leica will pay courier fees. etc. Contact the authorized dealer in Switzerland from whom you purchased it. They will send you a UPS label. Pete Thank you Pete, I just wrote them an email, will keep posting here with progress, I think it is important to keep this kind of things in the open so that other people can have a look 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaakov Posted April 26, 2020 Share #98 Posted April 26, 2020 So I did some checking and found that the cause it’s definitely the pressure plate I used a test roll which I marked in several place in order to track where the film was going, initially I suspected the scratches were made by the little bridge that supports the contact for the light meter but after looking with a light without the base plate it was obvious that that part doesn’t touch the film, the only part of the camera that touches the film is the pressure plate, I checked to see if a could feel any irregularities but it seam flat and smooth, I cut a little piece of film and started to rub it against the plate, the film got a lot of scratches, I did the same against the plate on my M2 the film came out clean 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaakov Posted April 26, 2020 Share #99 Posted April 26, 2020 I did some prints and this is how the scratches show up on a 9x12 darkroom print. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/306263-no-more-mechanism-perfection%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=3961583'>More sharing options...
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