ianman Posted January 25, 2020 Share #41 Posted January 25, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 hours ago, Ouroboros said: You'll definitely incur the wrath of the grip prevention Police, and that is not something that worried people really want to face. Well, certainly if you use a wooden one 😜 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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logan2z Posted January 25, 2020 Share #42 Posted January 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Ouroboros said: just buy a camera and get on with the creative enjoyment. Exactly. Cameras are tools, not sculptures. Spend your time using the camera for it's intended purpose rather than obsessing over every little 'imperfection' you might be able to find. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted January 25, 2020 Share #43 Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) Last Bessa series were based on Nikon consumer SLR chassis. Something like FM10 made by Cosina. They didn't bothered to keep shutter delay release and just covered it by leatherette on Bessa cameras. Back then it was priced around 400$. It is just hard to image how Leica would just leave hole in the body covered by leatherette in 4000$ camera. Edited January 25, 2020 by Ko.Fe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 25, 2020 Share #44 Posted January 25, 2020 I am slowly building up a picture of the average M-A owner. Gets up in the morning for shower and shave (but only after checking camera to see if the sink hole has got any bigger or has developed if not already there). After breakfast and taking the dog for a walk, settles down for a day checking the camera under daylight, spotlight, with and without the use of a lupe. This routine is only interrupted by meals and the occasional shopping trip. During the evening gets a phone call from a friend who asks after the camera to which the answer is "fine". The friend enquires about the picture quality but is told that, as the camera has only been in his possession for two years he has not had the chance to put a film through it as he has been far too busy checking for defects. 😀 Question: are there any M-A owners who have actually used their camera to take photos? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 25, 2020 Share #45 Posted January 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said: It is just hard to image how Leica would just leave hole in the body covered by leatherette in 4000$ camera. They don't just leave the hole. From the photos I've seen they fit in a piece of metal which is presumably glued or soldered. It would seem in some cases this piece is not perfectly flush with the surface or somehow gets pushed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 25, 2020 Share #46 Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Matlock said: I am slowly building up a picture of the average M-A owner. I know you are joking but one person asking about this issue hardly represents the average owner (I note you didn't write 'user' 🙂) If you look around you'll see that our very own Wattsy uses his M-As quite a lot and more often than not most impressively (even though I'm not speaking to him anymore). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 25, 2020 Share #47 Posted January 25, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 minute ago, ianman said: I know you are joking but one person asking about this issue hardly represents the average owner (I note you didn't write 'user' 🙂) It wasn't the one person asking, it was the interesting range of replies and, of course, it was intended to be light hearted. I use mine regularly and have no complaints on any count. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 25, 2020 Share #48 Posted January 25, 2020 I may be wrong, but doesn't the OP just is searching for one M-A "on line" ? What the OP sees "on line" are deceitful M-A ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted January 25, 2020 Share #49 Posted January 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, Matlock said: Question: are there any M-A owners who have actually used their camera to take photos? I've been known to use my M-A for actual picture taking - pretty much constantly since I bought it three years ago. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffz Posted January 26, 2020 Share #50 Posted January 26, 2020 Yep, I took use mine for photographing. I am very pleased with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.rolleica.cn Posted December 3, 2021 Share #51 Posted December 3, 2021 I once saw a pic on Internet (I forgot to save it): The owner took off the leather from his M-A. Where the battery cover used to be was a thin peice of metal cover the battery chamber. In essence, M-A is a MP with a sealed battery chamber and unconnected back door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 3, 2021 Share #52 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, www.rolleica.cn said: I once saw a pic on Internet (I forgot to save it): The owner took off the leather from his M-A. Where the battery cover used to be was a thin peice of metal cover the battery chamber. In essence, M-A is a MP with a sealed battery chamber and unconnected back door. Yes and no. Like this one ? 😉 and this ? In real life, does this matter ? As former user of MP, I don't mind to feel some 'unsignificant' differences in use with M-A: - no this red LED anymore in VF - complete bottom frame lines - one stage shutter release - no bumping at rear door Edited December 3, 2021 by a.noctilux 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted December 3, 2021 Share #53 Posted December 3, 2021 On 1/25/2020 at 11:54 AM, Matlock said: I am slowly building up a picture of the average M-A owner. Gets up in the morning for shower and shave (but only after checking camera to see if the sink hole has got any bigger or has developed if not already there). After breakfast and taking the dog for a walk, settles down for a day checking the camera under daylight, spotlight, with and without the use of a lupe. This routine is only interrupted by meals and the occasional shopping trip. During the evening gets a phone call from a friend who asks after the camera to which the answer is "fine". The friend enquires about the picture quality but is told that, as the camera has only been in his possession for two years he has not had the chance to put a film through it as he has been far too busy checking for defects. 😀 Question: are there any M-A owners who have actually used their camera to take photos? LOL. I use my M-A all the time and I have a beard. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/305462-m-a-repurposed-mp-body/?do=findComment&comment=4325592'>More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted December 3, 2021 Share #54 Posted December 3, 2021 On 1/25/2020 at 4:41 PM, Ko.Fe. said: It is just hard to image how Leica would just leave hole in the body covered by leatherette in 4000$ camera. Your helmet needs finishing. Apart from the big hole that you've put your head into, there are two uncovered holes in the top. Shoddy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.rolleica.cn Posted December 22, 2021 Share #55 Posted December 22, 2021 As a repairman, I never doubt Leica's quality in 1930-1970's, but the current ones are just so so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted December 22, 2021 Share #56 Posted December 22, 2021 Once i bought a serviced (in about 2006) M4-2. A new viewfinder was attached bei Leica, crystal clear. When the M-A came out i took the camera to the store and looked through the viewfinders as acomparison. I was not able to tell if there was a difference. Winding, releasing, shutter, all feels and sounds the same. Make your own conclusions, but the last improvement on the analog M- system was the MP- Viewfinder in 2003. i don´t talk about the M7 here, that´s something different. But in general you are holding a new M4-2 in your hands. The last real "brass and chrome" Camera, built almost by hand, was the M4. Nevertheless we can buy a new film- M if we want to. And that feels good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 22, 2021 Share #57 Posted December 22, 2021 8 hours ago, www.rolleica.cn said: As a repairman, I never doubt Leica's quality in 1930-1970's, but the current ones are just so so. No need to come to you for a repair then. People need confidence in a repair man not somebody who sucks air. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.rolleica.cn Posted December 23, 2021 Share #58 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I spent much time repairing so there's little time to write. and most of my writing is in Chinese. If I spend time on Internet sharing my experience, then little time on the repairs. But I'm writing a post about an Elmar 3.5cm Luftwaffen (1940). I will add 2 video chips, so you see the difference of the lens' function in spite of the language barriers. I'll put on the link after writing. Edited December 23, 2021 by www.rolleica.cn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.rolleica.cn Posted December 23, 2021 Share #59 Posted December 23, 2021 Here is a 1940 Elmar 3.5cm Luftwaffen recently serviced. Test shot, M9-P handheld at 1 meter, wide open. Rather impressive. Also, the 'century old' whale oil grease was replaced by 100% synthetic lub. The video on the article below shows the difference: http://rolleica.cn/h-nd-97.html#_np=0_596_3 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/305462-m-a-repurposed-mp-body/?do=findComment&comment=4337357'>More sharing options...
Swordman Posted December 23, 2021 Share #60 Posted December 23, 2021 On 1/25/2020 at 8:24 PM, logan2z said: Exactly. Cameras are tools, not sculptures. Spend your time using the camera for it's intended purpose rather than obsessing over every little 'imperfection' you might be able to find. Come on now…you don’t surely believe that, do you? This is a Leica we’re talking about. It’s the camera equivalent of a Rolex. Nobody buys a Rolex because it tells the time better than other watches, because it doesn’t. They buy Rolex because it’s a well, recognised luxury watch with excellent build quality. As a tool, it falls short. Leica cameras are basically the same thing. Performance-wise it trails behind other marques, and it costs triple the price. Nobody buys it as just a tool. They spend their money on something that's been marketed as a luxury item with superior build quality. At the prices they charge, I’d accept nothing but perfection. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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