Three lenses on M10, M10 & M9.

[ChateauMonty]

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You have two M10 bodies and one M9 body.

You have the following lenses: 24mm Elmarit ASPH, 28mm Elmarit ASPH, 35mm Summilux ASPH, 50mm Summicron and 75mm ASPH.

Which three lenses would you choose and on which bodies (please).

Thank you.

 

[FrozenInTime]

Any one who has acquired that gear over time, should know they shoot ; otherwise the question is without context. 

2x M10 + 28,35,50 ; sell the rest.

[M11 for me]

No Wate and 135mm? I would, in this case, take a Canon 5D or R with Zoom lens 24 to 105. Then you have a tiny set with just 1 camera and lens.

Edited December 14, 2019 by M10 for me

[earleygallery]

The idea of the M system is that you can change lenses, so any body and any lens will work.

[M11 for me]

vor 11 Minuten schrieb earleygallery:

The idea of the M system is that you can change lenses, so any body and any lens will work.

But the question was: Take 3 out of 5. This is a mathematical problem: How many combinations are there to put 3 lenses out of 5 lenses onto 3 cameras. I understand that the TO cannot resolve such a complex problem. Most among us had no statistics at university.

The mathematical problem is maybe even more complex as we have not 3 cameras all the same; No there are only 2 the same plus another model. Because of this additional complexity there are much more possibilities of combining the cameras with the lenses.

Edited December 14, 2019 by M10 for me

[farnz]

35/1.4 Summilux asph on one of your M10 bodies for low light shooting with the 35's fast aperture and the M10's improved high ISO performance over the M9.

24/2.8 Elmarit on the other M10 so you can use the Visoflex 020 if you wish/need to.

75/2 APO-Summicron asph on the M9 to give you a short telephoto option.

I must admit that I wouldn't be carrying 3 camera and lens combo's at the same time - too much weight and potential for <CLUNK> "Oh no!".

Pete.

[M11 for me]

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[ChateauMonty]

Thanks for some interesting and entertaining replies. I have the lenses but only two bodies (M9 and M10). M10 and 35 lux makes sense (reportage, Portraits with context, and great for low light shots inside dingy wineries). 

M9 and 75 work for portraits and landscapes, albeit not really dramatic landscapes but good enough for vineyards (28mm also good for vineyard shots).

I am thinking about buying a third body (M9 or M10, used not new) so as to avoid changing lenses in windy dusty and often sticky pollen rich places outside. I’d just take two bodies with lenses when working, not all three. Lighter and focuses the mind.

Any more comments would be welcome.

thanks again

Best wishes

[Jeff S]

M10 frame lines are optimized at 2m; M9 at 1m.  Depending on your subject matter and distance, that could influence your decision. One gets used to framing, but more difficult when your brain must adjust to different tools simultaneously. Two M10s makes more sense to me, although I stick to one body at a time.

Jeff

 

[ChateauMonty]

Thanks Jeff, point taken. Males and multitasking, eh!  In most situations I can work leisurely so switching bodies and focal lengths is not pressured. If I am in a reportage situation I agree one body and one lens is best.

[a5m]

Seems like asking these types of questions (especially without context) is similar to asking another person if shoes you're trying on are the right size.

[ChateauMonty]

One way of looking at it. But the answers or comments have been useful. Enough potentially to save me time, money or both. 

[Soden]

To be more direct and to the point... I pick my gear based on the environment and the type of subject i'll be shooting. Every environment requires its own selection, and a change of environment changes the gear in use. If I go to a location, I take the gear necessary for the multiple types of subjects. An example, If I am going to an interesting town for street, I also take the gear for architecture, etc. True I try to overlap my gear so I'm not taking too much. Your style and interests will determine what you match with what body. M9 is better with low ISO, so to get the best a more controlled environment is better. Having two M10s allows you to switch combinations much quicker. But again what that combination is, is environment/style dependent.

Edited December 15, 2019 by Soden

[adan]

Me, I would put the 35 f/1.4 on the M9 (needs a fast aperture more than the M10s) and the 24 and 75 on the M10s. Of course, that could also be 28/75 - or 24/50, or any other such mix.

My own personal carry with three lenses, centered on a 35mm, is - bright light, 21/35/135 f/4; low-light 21/35/75

For two lenses (1 or 2 cameras) I've been having fun with a 28-75 combo recently - that's one thing Lenny Kravitz got right (despite the faux-snakeskin).

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[JonPB]

24/2.8 on an M10. This lens (well, at least my 21/2.8 Asph., which I understand is of a similar design) is all about the subtleties of light flowing from brightness to darkness, so I want as much detail and nuance as possible in the dynamic range.

50/2 on an M10. The better rangefinder makes it easier to find that crisp, shallow focus.

35/1.4 on the M9. (This is my current all purpose, every day kit, so my bias will show.) This is a do-everything lens on a never-say-die body. The moderate wide angle combined with a fast aperture make it suitable for a wide range of situations. I think the M9's high ISO capabilities are just fine; certainly newer cameras are better, but the M9 is stunningly capable when compared with the film that is my benchmark, and if there isn't enough light to make a good photo with an M9 then there isn't enough light for my skills to create a good photo with. I could wax poetic about this lens for hours, and the M9's moderate dynamic range makes all of its images quite nice quite easily nearly straight out of the box. For snapshots or observational rather than contemplative photography, say no more: 35/1.4 and M9. Not that an M10 is overall inferior -- I'd happily take three M10s over three M9s if cost weren't a factor -- but using an M9 here isn't much of a compromise at all.

Of course, the implied question is important, too: why not the other lenses. The 28 Elmarit Asph. appears to be a brilliant lens in a very accommodating focal length and would be a worthy candidate for a one-camera solution, but I find that focal length's areal distortion to be distracting at times and so, if I have multiple bodies or the luxury of time to choose lenses, I like having a wider lens for subjects that suit that view and a narrower lens for subjects that won't do well with wide-angle distortion, ergo my choice here of 24 & 35. The 75mm Asph. has a lot of character in common with the 35/1.4, and I like that a lot, but I simply don't go out to that focal length very often. I see wide; for me, 50mm is tele, so for my tele lens it would see the most use.

[ChateauMonty]

Thanks. I know there is no right or wrong answer to my question but a number of key points and suggestions made above make 100% sense for my needs. I am lucky in that my day job pays the bills and covers travel and the photos I take as a sideline whilst on the road generate some bonus income. I am much clearer now than I was before about what will work best for me and my set up, and more importantly why.

Thank you all. (And any more comments welcome).

[M11 for me]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb ChateauMonty:

Thanks for some interesting and entertaining replies. I have the lenses but only two bodies (M9 and M10). M10 and 35 lux makes sense (reportage, Portraits with context, and great for low light shots inside dingy wineries). 

M9 and 75 work for portraits and landscapes, albeit not really dramatic landscapes but good enough for vineyards (28mm also good for vineyard shots).

I am thinking about buying a third body (M9 or M10, used not new) so as to avoid changing lenses in windy dusty and often sticky pollen rich places outside. I’d just take two bodies with lenses when working, not all three. Lighter and focuses the mind.

Any more comments would be welcome.

thanks again

Best wishes

I like these considerations. That makes great sense. 

Often in towns at night time an f/2.0 ist fast enough as there is still quite a lot of light all around. I just recently I experienced that again and I left the 28 Summicron on the M10 and did not change to the 35mm Lux that I had with me as well. Even though 28 and 35mm are quite near the little bid wider of 28 gives me often more satisfaction. 

[Jeff S]

Besides the frameline distance optimization distinctions I mentioned, the M10 VF has a larger opening, higher magnification and better eye relief.  This may or may not result in more or less viewing or focusing ease when using certain lenses. And you’ve probably already considered any differences in rendering (colors, resolution, noise or otherwise).

I have an M10 and a Monochrom (M9 based), but never use them together.  One of the key benefits of the MM is to retain a b/w mindset throughout the shooting and processing experience. Lens decisions are, as always, dependent on specific shooting goals and conditions.

I used to own two M6 bodies, and later two M7s, sometimes carrying both, but the flexibility of digital pretty much obviates the need.  I never really enjoyed carrying two bodies at once. The biggest remaining advantage is avoiding lens changes in inclement weather.... but I’m buying an SL2 to help with that... and won’t be simultaneously using an M.

Jeff

 

[ChateauMonty]

 I get where Jeff is coming from re one body and one lens and one mindset. My day job is wine tasting. If I know I am tasting say 50 white wines every single one of which is made from 100% Chardonnay grapes from Burgundy in France with no oak barrel ageing you get into a clear mindset and there is no room in your head, nose or palate for ambiguity. You have one broad benchmark. But if I am tasting 50 Chardonnay wines from all over the world (Chile, Australia, Burgundy, California, Austria, Bulgaria, Canada, Argentina, South Africa, New Zealand etc), some of which were fermented or aged in new oak (to add a vanilla flavoured sheen to the fruit–Chardonnay is not the most highly flavoured grape variety, unlike say Sauvignon Blanc) and others in steel tanks not so it is much harder to define where your benchmarks are. You are having to change lens all the time.

Will play around with Farnz's lens-body combo suggestions (whilst sticking to mineral water, no wine).

 

 

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[Herr Barnack]

My choices would be:  28mm Elmarit ASPH, 35mm Summilux ASPH, 50mm Summicron and the two M10 bodies.  That kit should cover 95% or more of subjects, situations and gear needs. 

If a person takes the above gear and comes back from a trip or a shoot bereft of arresting images, it's not the gear's fault.  😎

Edited December 15, 2019 by Herr Barnack