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Here is another C1 20 sample and the original red. 

 

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SL2 version screen photograph in C1 20: Yellow is off, too.

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vor 17 Minuten schrieb Arrow:

Here is another C1 20 sample and the original red. 

 

Original color screen shot:

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SL2 version screen photographed then in C1 20: Yellow is off, too.

LR will give you exactly the opposite, the flag will be magenta and Adobe Color will turn into red.  You may want to consider using both, opening the file in C1, and then round-tripping it from LR as a TIFF back to C1.

See the outfit on the left in the seventh picture here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-7qQZzW/.  It’s actually magenta.  I can post a JPG  with the stock profile or post a link to download the DNG.

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14 minutes ago, Chaemono said:

LR will give you exactly the opposite, the flag will be magenta and Adobe Color will turn into red.  You may want to consider using both, opening the file in C1, and then round-tripping it from LR as a TIFF back to C1.

See the outfit on the left in the seventh picture here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-7qQZzW/.  It’s actually magenta.  I can post a JPG  with the stock profile or post a link to download the DNG.

I was already admiring your pictures for the great colors :) 

I played a bit in C1 20 and played a bit more with white balance options. The default wb comes in at 3949 Kelvin. Moving the slider to 13341 Kelvin and one stop of underexposure does the trick in this case. Does not work in other, more color complex, cases :(

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I've found different upgrades of Lightroom played havoc with my M8  JPG files.  One day the greens were nice in my lawn shots...the next upgrade made grasses look gaudy luminous...im not one for oversaturation (generally). All previous images affected, and difficult to correct.

Now i shoot DNG which gives me the colours i want. I have M-P (240) and always use auto white balance...works very well. 

Reds are usually too hot though...as with all digi pics.

 

Just throwing a mention into the ring...🤔

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35 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I found the same. The solution is to use an earlier process. ( the top lefthand button in the calibration module opens the pull-down menu)

Well, that's a relief Jaap...thought i was going mad...i hadn't made note on the Forum, prior to this.

I'll check out your suggestion once my main computer is fixed...can't turn on,  power supply i suspect.

Anyway great to have support from a staunch M8 lover.

...

PS IIRC have tried the "Earlier Version" route..but will explore more.  Just so pleased to find a supporter...nothing on our forum previously.

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8 hours ago, meerec said:

This to me is calling for SL2 custom camera profiles to be created for either LR and C1. 

Youp! C1 was very quick in producing an ICC profile for the Fuji Xpro3 that was released about the same time as the SL2. Don't know what causes these delays with new Leica products 😐

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20 minutes ago, jaapv said:

C1 and Leica are not on very friendly terms...🙄

At least they are on better terms than C1 and Hasselblad 😉 (there is no support, and there will never ever be support for Hasselblad cameras in C1).

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So I’ve tried improving skin colours in C1 v 20 on Mac but I failed. The results were awful and most likely it’s me to blame for my lack of patience and skills with C1. I’ve made some progress with LR on iPad though: colour grading in LR and then round tripping to Adobe PS Fix app for quick retouching gives me this quick result, which I rather like. So to my eye, LR v 6.14 on OS X Catalina is bad on skin tones, whereas the latest LR on iPad works well. What do you think?

 

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16 minutes ago, meerec said:

So I’ve tried improving skin colours in C1 v 20 on Mac but I failed. The results were awful and most likely it’s me to blame for my lack of patience and skills with C1. I’ve made some progress with LR on iPad though: colour grading in LR and then round tripping to Adobe PS Fix app for quick retouching gives me this quick result, which I rather like. So to my eye, LR v 6.14 on OS X Catalina is bad on skin tones, whereas the latest LR on iPad works well. What do you think?

 

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am curious what this skin tone is like in the DNG if opened in Rawtherapee, with all corrections OFF

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1 hour ago, meerec said:

So I’ve tried improving skin colours in C1 v 20 on Mac but I failed. The results were awful and most likely it’s me to blame for my lack of patience and skills with C1. I’ve made some progress with LR on iPad though: colour grading in LR and then round tripping to Adobe PS Fix app for quick retouching gives me this quick result, which I rather like. So to my eye, LR v 6.14 on OS X Catalina is bad on skin tones, whereas the latest LR on iPad works well. What do you think?

 

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could you link to the DNG please?

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While I (and surely many more) am waiting for C1 20 finally to come up with an ICC for the SL2, I take advantage of the LR three month trial version (including Photoshop which I never felt the urge to use in the past .... ). The tones in LR are fine. Let's see what C1 will come up with.

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PhaseOne is working on a SL2 profile.
So a bit patience and the colors should be better:
https://youtu.be/W7jsG0R0v08?t=2747

Generell information how the cameraprofiles for DNGs in C1 works and how they are generated by PhaseOne in the same video:
https://youtu.be/W7jsG0R0v08?t=2113

 

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