camalogica Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share #141 Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Nowhereman said: ^ One more thing, while I used an M9 DNG, which was underexposed by 1½ stops, the output (without auto development) was very pale (after inversion); not at all dark as in the Lightroom view before any processing adjustments. ________________________Frog Leaping photobook Maybe you need to set the output gamma to 2.2, if not it will be gamma = 1.0 by default (as when scanning real film with scanners) and, because of this, it's really dark! Edited January 3, 2021 by camalogica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 3, 2021 Posted January 3, 2021 Hi camalogica, Take a look here Homemade method of simulating FILM with Leica M9 - Testers & feedback welcome!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lydkraft Posted January 3, 2021 Share #142 Posted January 3, 2021 4 hours ago, camalogica said: Hi again, I've just build it in OSX with backward support till 10.11, could you please test if it works whenever you can? I attach it here as a zip (just the OSX executable). Just decompress it and replace the old one m9tofilm_1.05.1_OSX_executable.zip 648.9 kB · 1 download Thanks for your help!! Tomás Tomás, Thanks for all your work here. I am running 10.13.6 but I'm still getting a "dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: ____chkstk_darwin" error. Also an "abort trap 6" error. This stuff isn't my forte, so I'm not sure what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks. David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted January 3, 2021 Share #143 Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, camalogica said: Maybe you need to set the output gamma to 2.2, if not it will be gamma = 1.0 by default (as when scanning real film with scanners) and, because of this, it's really dark! Funny, I did run it at both 1.0 and 2.2 gamma — and got the same result for both. ________________________Frog Leaping photobook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share #144 Posted January 4, 2021 18 hours ago, Nowhereman said: Funny, I did run it at both 1.0 and 2.2 gamma — and got the same result for both. ________________________Frog Leaping photobook Can you post/send me the command used? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share #145 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Nowhereman said: Funny, I did run it at both 1.0 and 2.2 gamma — and got the same result for both. ________________________Frog Leaping photobook Maybe there is a conflict with the other options set. Or maybe a bug! Have to take a look Edited January 4, 2021 by camalogica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share #146 Posted January 4, 2021 18 hours ago, lydkraft said: Tomás, Thanks for all your work here. I am running 10.13.6 but I'm still getting a "dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: ____chkstk_darwin" error. Also an "abort trap 6" error. This stuff isn't my forte, so I'm not sure what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks. David. Im going to take a look ASAP. Although Im not an OSX expert 😅 In theory it should work, because I added the compatibility flag till 10.11, but no idea what's happening! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #147 Posted January 5, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/3/2021 at 11:23 PM, lydkraft said: Tomás, Thanks for all your work here. I am running 10.13.6 but I'm still getting a "dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: ____chkstk_darwin" error. Also an "abort trap 6" error. This stuff isn't my forte, so I'm not sure what I'm doing incorrectly. Thanks. David. Hi David, Have you uncompressed the zip for the version 1.05.1 file and replace the old one in the folder? I've been doing some research and it should work in OS X 10.13.6 Tomás 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lydkraft Posted January 7, 2021 Share #148 Posted January 7, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 10:29 AM, camalogica said: Hi David, Have you uncompressed the zip for the version 1.05.1 file and replace the old one in the folder? I've been doing some research and it should work in OS X 10.13.6 Tomás Tomás, Sorry for the delay. I live in Washington DC and it's been a bit nuts here. I believe I did indeed replace with 1.05.1. Will keep trying. I also have another Mac I should try it on. Hopefully Something will work. I have a developer friend who should be able to help me with this. I'll try to get his attention. Thanks so much, David. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyMrT Posted March 6, 2022 Share #149 Posted March 6, 2022 Hi, i have tested it with the latest OSX 12.2 (21D49). Unfortunately it gives a "Segmentation fault: 11" back. Maybe you know how to fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Maciasso Posted March 10, 2022 Share #150 Posted March 10, 2022 Hello! Is there any chance to still get this program? Results look amazing! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 20, 2022 Share #151 Posted March 20, 2022 Am 10.3.2022 um 23:39 schrieb Don_Maciasso: Hello! Is there any chance to still get this program? Results look amazing! Same question...still available? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben-G Posted June 21, 2022 Share #152 Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Any chance to still get this program? Please Tomás reupload your program ... there isn't any available download for your last link ... thanks ... "Here is the link where you can download the OSX version (and windows also). It's the version 1.05"https://mega.nz/file/gMNzhYKJ#OiC1ZWn8jyjxnTu-66w0LlBd07RL-F-BILGB4YuDqUw Best regards Edited June 21, 2022 by Ben-G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camalogica Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share #153 Posted December 16, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 10:06 AM, Ben-G said: Any chance to still get this program? Please Tomás reupload your program ... there isn't any available download for your last link ... thanks ... "Here is the link where you can download the OSX version (and windows also). It's the version 1.05"https://mega.nz/file/gMNzhYKJ#OiC1ZWn8jyjxnTu-66w0LlBd07RL-F-BILGB4YuDqUw Best regards Sorry for the super delay... Didn't enter in the forums lately and I didn't dedicate much to programming this last months: Here is the zip again, this time in Google Drive, so it won't be deleted: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mdovcnx0Zbw_zxdPumVSEZm15-r3AmBs/view?usp=share_link I've also added native mac OSX arm64 (mac m1) support. Kind regards and sorry again for the super delay!! Cheers, Tomás 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njhaley Posted December 21, 2022 Share #154 Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 8:55 AM, camalogica said: Sorry for the super delay... Didn't enter in the forums lately and I didn't dedicate much to programming this last months: Here is the zip again, this time in Google Drive, so it won't be deleted: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mdovcnx0Zbw_zxdPumVSEZm15-r3AmBs/view?usp=share_link I've also added native mac OSX arm64 (mac m1) support. Kind regards and sorry again for the super delay!! Cheers, Tomás Did anyone post a dummies guide? If I drag it into terminal, then try to follow your guide I get the error zsh: segmentation fault Help greatly appreciated! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Maciasso Posted December 22, 2022 Share #155 Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 9:55 AM, camalogica said: Sorry for the super delay... Didn't enter in the forums lately and I didn't dedicate much to programming this last months: Here is the zip again, this time in Google Drive, so it won't be deleted: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mdovcnx0Zbw_zxdPumVSEZm15-r3AmBs/view?usp=share_link I've also added native mac OSX arm64 (mac m1) support. Kind regards and sorry again for the super delay!! Cheers, Tomás Sorry, but I don't understand how to convert files I'm not a computer scientist And the readme instructions don't tell me anything Is there a chance for some video-screen on YT with step-by-step instructions on how to do it? PLEASE :)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted May 7, 2023 Share #156 Posted May 7, 2023 On 12/16/2022 at 9:55 PM, camalogica said: Sorry for the super delay... Didn't enter in the forums lately and I didn't dedicate much to programming this last months: Here is the zip again, this time in Google Drive, so it won't be deleted: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mdovcnx0Zbw_zxdPumVSEZm15-r3AmBs/view?usp=share_link I've also added native mac OSX arm64 (mac m1) support. Kind regards and sorry again for the super delay!! Cheers, Tomás Hi Tomás, this is a very interesting project. I am getting a lot of of zsh: segmentation fault errors though. If I run it in Bash on OS X then I get Segmentation fault: 11. It has worked a few times so it does have all the correct permissions... Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiteemula Posted May 18, 2023 Share #157 Posted May 18, 2023 Thanks a ton for this tool, it produces some really nice b&w conversions! The color conversions are a bit hit and miss with the auto-develop, but when they hit they are really good looking. Seems to depend a lot how good the lighting on the particular day is (which to be honest, is the case with film as well). Newest Lightroom has a pretty good film-grain option, but this seems to be just a tad bit better at it. If you ever return to develop this tool more, I am more than happy to give feedback! Pictures with M9, 35mm f2 lens, uncompressed DNG. Color photos shot at 200ISO and B&W images at 400ISO, but i've gotten good results with "wrong" iso settings too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/302444-homemade-method-of-simulating-film-with-leica-m9-testers-feedback-welcome/?do=findComment&comment=4774356'>More sharing options...
invict Posted June 6, 2024 Share #158 Posted June 6, 2024 Hey Tomás, This is amazing stuff, very intuitive method and great results. Is there a possibility you would put this on github? People could callibrate it for their own cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam.kaijie Posted October 25, 2024 Share #159 Posted October 25, 2024 This looks very interesting. I was able to download and figure out how to use it, but when I run the command I get an error message "This app can't run on your PC. To find a version for your PC, check with the software publisher". I'm assuming it's not compatible with Windows 11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarbSpieler Posted December 14, 2024 Share #160 Posted December 14, 2024 I was able to run the app on my M1 mac and get some conversions indeed. But I have a question. You wrote that this is "... based on simulating the chemical process". Where is the chemical simulation happening? The chemical process in film photography involves the interaction of light with silver halide crystals and their subsequent development with chemicals. This is a complex, non-linear process that not only depends on light but also on time, temperature, and developer composition. I assume that applying LUT is not the same as simulating the chemical process. You also wrote: "maybe is there any mathematical conversion to make the digital to look like film". But we know that real film records light in a non-linear, logarithmic fashion. The response to light is gradual, leading to smooth transitions in highlights and shadows. Digital sensors, by contrast, have a linear response to light and will clip highlights once the sensor's full capacity is reached. Unlike real film, digital sensors will not "record" the subsequent photons. How does his method account for these differences in the fundamental capture processes? Thank you! Again. great work! I'm not aiming to undermine it, just wanted some clarity in the terms we all use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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