fotografr Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share #41 Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Keeping your Monochrome is definitely sage advice. The reason I've been searching for one is that someone emailed me that he wanted to sell his silver MM1 and he'd seen posts suggesting I wanted to buy one. We worked out a price (not low) and I bought his camera with fewer than 5000 clicks on it. Two weeks later he emailed me than he had severe seller's regret. Since then both he and I have been working to find him a suitable replacement. The last time I sold a Monochrom, I had the same experience. Within a few weeks I started beating the bushes for another one. Edited September 7, 2019 by fotografr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fotografr Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share #42 Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, colint544 said: M Monochrom mk1 is the first digital camera I've had, where I haven't felt it's become old or outdated. Seven years I've had it now. I use it all the time, and still I'm excited to see the pictures from it. I wouldn't swap it for anything else. It's capable of making stunning photographs. Its limitations are its strengths. You not only use it, you use it to perfection. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted September 7, 2019 Share #43 Posted September 7, 2019 It’s only happened for me with two: 1. 50 Lux ASPH 2. MM1 Hoping that I have finally learned my lesson and will hold on to them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted September 7, 2019 Share #44 Posted September 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, fotografr said: You not only use it, you use it to perfection. Too kind, Brent, but I'll take the compliment! Just had a look at your work - it's fabulous. Is the mono gallery on the M Monochrom, it very much looks like it? I like the restrained style of your processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share #45 Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, colint544 said: Too kind, Brent, but I'll take the compliment! Just had a look at your work - it's fabulous. Is the mono gallery on the M Monochrom, it very much looks like it? I like the restrained style of your processing. Thank you. It's mostly Monochrom but a few are from my M6 days. I could easily shoot b&w exclusively for the rest of my life. I can't figure out why I keep my M10. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share #46 Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, dkmoore said: It’s only happened for me with two: 1. 50 Lux ASPH 2. MM1 Hoping that I have finally learned my lesson and will hold on to them Ha! Identical experience here. I felt really bad about selling my 50 lux asph, but then I found a mint 50 Summicron circa 1960. I think it's as good as the lux and a whole lot less expensive. Only $1100. It's practically glued onto the mono. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musotographer Posted September 8, 2019 Share #47 Posted September 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 hours ago, fotografr said: Ha! Identical experience here. I felt really bad about selling my 50 lux asph, but then I found a mint 50 Summicron circa 1960. I think it's as good as the lux and a whole lot less expensive. Only $1100. It's practically glued onto the mono. I recently sold my 50 lux asph and somewhat questioned my own sanity as I did so, but I’ve replaced it with beautiful Rigid and DR Summicrons and couldn’t be happier. No remorse as yet.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share #48 Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Musotographer said: I recently sold my 50 lux asph and somewhat questioned my own sanity as I did so, but I’ve replaced it with beautiful Rigid and DR Summicrons and couldn’t be happier. No remorse as yet.... Ken Rockwell calls the DR Summicron the best 50mm lens ever made by Leica. They are built to last forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musotographer Posted September 8, 2019 Share #49 Posted September 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, fotografr said: Ken Rockwell calls the DR Summicron the best 50mm lens ever made by Leica. They are built to last forever. It's a remarkable piece of design and engineering. But on my digital Ms it only focuses to about 12 feet, so I keep it for portraits and interiors and otherwise use the Rigid. Marvellous photos on your website btw. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted September 8, 2019 Share #50 Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, fotografr said: Ken Rockwell calls the DR Summicron the best 50mm lens ever made by Leica. They are built to last forever. Mechanically, yes. Shame the elements suffer from haze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share #51 Posted September 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, pedaes said: Mechanically, yes. Shame the elements suffer from haze. But cleanable, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted September 8, 2019 Share #52 Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, fotografr said: But cleanable, right? You never know until you try to clean it. Often though, it is permanent to some degree with these vintage lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 8, 2019 Share #53 Posted September 8, 2019 Just curious, as I own many Summicron DR lenses over time, question about the "haze". Are the glass used in DR are the same as Rigid ? From my many years using those nice Summicron, and searching for informations, I've never had hazed DR (only 5 units) but one lightly hazed Rigid (of 7 units). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share #54 Posted September 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Just curious, as I own many Summicron DR lenses over time, question about the "haze". Are the glass used in DR are the same as Rigid ? From my many years using those nice Summicron, and searching for informations, I've never had hazed DR (only 5 units) but one lightly hazed Rigid (of 7 units). I'll have to introduce you to the person I bought my latest MM from. He owns 37 M lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 8, 2019 Share #55 Posted September 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, fotografr said: I'll have to introduce you to the person I bought my latest MM from. He owns 37 M lenses. Poor man, only 37 lenses to cherish 😉 ( It's a joke of course 😇 he can own many more as he wants ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted September 9, 2019 Share #56 Posted September 9, 2019 I wouldnt let go of my M Monochrom purchased in 2013. Recently I had the top plate replaced after incurring very small cosmetic dent from accidental knock in camera bag. The camera looks like new again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted September 9, 2019 Share #57 Posted September 9, 2019 For anyone interested, there's a seller in the US, www.lens authority.com, the sister company of the reliable lensrentals.com, that sells off items for the latter once they've cycled through them every 2 years. Until 16 Sept, they have a sale for the M9M with the new sensor; using the discount code "SEPT15" at checkout, it would cost you US$2907. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted September 9, 2019 Share #58 Posted September 9, 2019 21 hours ago, a.noctilux said: Just curious, as I own many Summicron DR lenses over time, question about the "haze". Are the glass used in DR are the same as Rigid ? From my many years using those nice Summicron, and searching for informations, I've never had hazed DR (only 5 units) but one lightly hazed Rigid (of 7 units). Identical optical formula. As for the haze, a malady that seemed to affect fewer Canon and Nikkor of the age. But seemingly too many Leica lenses of that era and of all focal lengths. Perhaps less so for the DR because it has to be opened in due course for use and the lubricant can out-gas into the universe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted September 9, 2019 Share #59 Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) I won't let go of my MMI and I dread the day when I will no longer be able to use this camera, and there will be no CCD Leica manufactured camera to replace it. For me it's mostly about skin tones with the MMI, and that's where this camera truly excels. I can use a CMOS sensor camera for just about anything else, but it's always hit or miss with B&W skin tones if the light is not perfect!. I took a few shots yesterday of a very talented young Violinist, and once again I was reminded why I will forever keep this camera. Leica, please bring back an upgraded CCD version Monochrom, or even a CCD Mirrorless. From my perspective, the rich flesh tones produced by the MMI are like the rich music played by Astor Sage on his beautiful violin. . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 9, 2019 by wilfredo 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/301134-mm1-value-increasing/?do=findComment&comment=3816471'>More sharing options...
bideford Posted September 10, 2019 Share #60 Posted September 10, 2019 Referring back to the OP - it is certainly evident to me that over recent months there have been very few (if any) MM1 cameras available from established UK dealers and auction site sellers. I was looking for a valuation as (only for a while) I was thinking of offloading to finance a used M10 - so it is fair to say I did more than just a random sample. It is also clear that the price has risen somewhat - when I bought mine 18 months ago there were number available (good/excellent condition, low shutter count and sensor replaced) to choose from around the £2700 mark. I have not looked today as I am no longer interested so no need for anyone to shoot back with a plethora of reasonably priced examples available in just a couple of minutes googling. As always supply dictates demand in this market. James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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