Paulus Posted May 24, 2019 Share #1 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) The Drifter is a well chosen name for a Monochrom camera drifting towards the inevitable end of the Monochrom M and smoothening the path for a Monochrom M10 http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-Special-Editions/Drifter IMHO it will take one summer holiday before the new M will arrive. https://www.meister-camera.com/de/produkt/9144/leica-m-monochrom-drifter Edited May 24, 2019 by Paulus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 Hi Paulus, Take a look here Is the Leica Drifter the last sign that a new Monochrom M10 is arriving?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
3DPopStar Posted May 24, 2019 Share #2 Posted May 24, 2019 Let’s hope so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted May 24, 2019 Share #3 Posted May 24, 2019 Not sure I understand your logic here. If anything, Leica releasing another variant of the M246 Monochrom suggests that that model is still alive and kicking in 2019. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 24, 2019 Share #4 Posted May 24, 2019 These special editions have tended to be a last hurrah before the next model is issued. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted May 24, 2019 Share #5 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) I do not see any limited edition camera as indicating any future trend. The Drifter is a quite limited edition, with a unique sepia-tone finish. The Monochrom 246 is still available, new, for immediate shipping, from at least one major Leica Store in the USA, for the original official price of $7995 US. I would think that the best way to encourage Leica to produce an M10 Monochrom, would be for the available stock of the Monochrom Type 246 to completely sell-out, due to a frenzied demand. Having said that, I would love to be proven wrong. 😁 Edited May 24, 2019 by RexGig0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted May 25, 2019 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) More significant than the Drifter, in terms of an M10M perhaps coming soon, is the fact that in the UK at least, Leica has just reduced the retail price of the M246 from £6200 to £4750. That’s a hell of a saving and won’t please everyone, especially those who recently committed to a new one, or who are thinking of selling. I don’t know if this has happened in other countries; I’m guessing it has. Edited May 25, 2019 by jcraf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted May 25, 2019 Share #7 Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 23 minutes ago, jcraf said: More significant than the Drifter, in terms of an M10M perhaps coming soon, is the fact that in the UK at least, Leica has just reduced the retail price of the M246 from £6200 to £4750. That’s a hell of a saving and won’t please everyone, especially those who recently committed to a new one, or who are thinking of selling. I don’t know if this has happened in other countries; I’m guessing it has. Totally unrelated, probably same London Leica dealer, SL dropped to £3195. Actually M246 was held at very high price point for too long, some three years ago I acquired mine for les than £5k (4990). It may well be an attempt to offload the stock, whether it brings M10M time will tell. Hopefully it is back paint finish otherwise M246 is still good enough. Edited May 25, 2019 by mmradman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted May 25, 2019 Share #8 Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, mmradman said: Totally unrelated, probably same London Leica dealer, SL dropped to £3195. Actually M246 was held at very high price point for too long, some three years ago I acquired mine for les than £5k (4990). It may well be an attempt to offload the stock, whether it brings M10M time will tell. Hopefully it is back paint finish otherwise M246 is still good enough. It’s not a specific London dealer dropping the prices, it’s a Leica UK directive, both for the M246 and the SL. I agree that the 246 of course remains more than good enough, as does the SL, for me at least. Never a better time to acquire either whether new, or used (since the used prices will be depressed for both). Edited May 25, 2019 by jcraf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted May 26, 2019 Share #9 Posted May 26, 2019 No M246 price drop in Australia much the same price as the M10 😐 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 26, 2019 Share #10 Posted May 26, 2019 From the sound of it, you're treated rather poorly in Aus ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted May 26, 2019 Share #11 Posted May 26, 2019 Price drops tend to start in UK, then go to the US and elsewhere soon after (a few days). Same with the package deal on the Leica SL. Getting the limited edition out, and price drop. I've started saving pennies for the M10-DM 😉 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted May 26, 2019 Share #12 Posted May 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, Overgaard said: Price drops tend to start in UK, then go to the US and elsewhere soon after (a few days). Same with the package deal on the Leica SL. Getting the limited edition out, and price drop. I've started saving pennies for the M10-DM 😉 And I will soon be able to buy the Monochrom 246 when the used marked are effected 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted May 26, 2019 vor 3 Stunden schrieb Overgaard: Price drops tend to start in UK, then go to the US and elsewhere soon after (a few days). Same with the package deal on the Leica SL. Getting the limited edition out, and price drop. I've started saving pennies for the M10-DM 😉 And wouldn't you be surprised when😉 it really happened... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted May 26, 2019 Share #14 Posted May 26, 2019 It seems that the Monochrom 246 remains at $7995 in the USA, according to a flagship Leica store’s site, which stocks the 246. I have been watching the availability and price, hoping to be able to get a second 246. I have budgeted to spend $8K, in very late May/June, but that is by taking from my 2018/2019 travel budget, so a substantial price drop would be welcome. I have bought pre-owned, in the past, including my present 246, but have developed a reluctance to keep rolling those dice. Plus, a few pre-owned 246 cameras have been selling for a bit more, recently, on evil-bay, rather than less, while the truly minty samples have disappeared. When I really love a mechanical and/or electronic item, which will someday become rare, I have learned that I should try to acquire a second/spare copy, if practicable, during the time of plenty. I love my M10, too, but that does not mean that there will be an actual M10 Monochrom, or that any future Monochrom will share batteries and accessories with either my 246 or M10. Three battery sizes, and three chargers, might be a bit much. I am not advising anyone what to do. These are my thoughts, for myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted May 29, 2019 Share #15 Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) The Monochrom 246 price is still $7995 in the USA, but I found an apparently clean, very-low-use pre-owned 246 offered by a reputable seller, Popflash, for almost $3K less than that, and clicked the Buy-It-Now tab. Now, I can be very patient, regarding any future Monochrom editions. The $3K I did not spend, may be used to add a lens. Edited May 29, 2019 by RexGig0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted May 30, 2019 Share #16 Posted May 30, 2019 RexGig0, good moving. As I was tired of waiting for M10 Monochrom (in M-D if possible), I took the same path some months ago, M246 and changed my mind concerning future M10-D Monochrom. I can say that the M246 is as good as can be a Monochrom for years to come, so I'm not "waiting" anymore, and just use it with pleasure. Now, I don't care if M10 Monochrom comes soon or not ☺️. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted June 3, 2019 This is certainly a sign! https://www.meister-camera.com/de/produkt/7634/leica-m-monochrom-typ-246 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 3, 2019 Share #18 Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Paulus said: This is certainly a sign! https://www.meister-camera.com/de/produkt/7634/leica-m-monochrom-typ-246 £4750 at Red Dot in London ie €5360.... Edited June 3, 2019 by NigelG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted June 3, 2019 Share #19 Posted June 3, 2019 I think that is a sign ! Even if I don't care anymore for M10 Monochrom. Seen this, at 5450€, in Paris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted July 4, 2019 Share #20 Posted July 4, 2019 i dont care when the new monochrom arrives, but with which sensor. now that the Q2 already has a new high resolution sensor i sure hope that leica isnt using the same "dated" sensor of the m10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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