M10-D owners - are you happy?

[AndreasG]

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vor 6 Minuten schrieb TangoCharlie27:

Made of brass?

I also doubt it is brass, the touch and sound when scratching is plastic for me. As for the yellow color, mentioned by fenykepesz above, could it be PPS, a strong engineering plastic of yellow/beige color?

[fenykepesz]

i also thought first that it's plastic - but the little grooves i created are indeed quite shiny and yellowish, and, using a magnifying glass, looks like brass, Messing in german.  at least that's the case for the middle ring, while the three indents in the outer ring i have filled with paint & glue and hence can't be examined anymore.  but i remember them glistening too - and, importantly, the stuff was really hard while sinking the drill... don't faint now 

Edited April 28, 2020 by fenykepesz

[fenykepesz]

here a pic of these infamous wheel grooves - although i had some trouble focusing with my FxTec Pro-1...  looks pretty metally to me.

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[AndreasG]

Yes, indeed, it looks like brass (I have machined a lot of brass in my life to build small steam engines), or, considering the price range of M cameras, Gold? 😀

[otto.f]

Is the M10-D out of production? I don’t see it in well known Leica stores

[poli]

4 minutes ago, otto.f said:

Is the M10-D out of production? I don’t see it in well known Leica stores

Yes. It is. Unfortunately. I hope Leica will keep on making screenless M cameras. 

[otto.f]

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Because of the problems with the wheel at the back? They do show it on Leica’s main site though

Edited January 19, 2021 by otto.f

[poli]

I do not know if the Wheel has anything to do with it (never had issues with mine). It was announced last summer with T the release of the m10-r. I think there is a thread about it on this forum. At the website of the Leica store in my area (Amsterdam) it is stated as ‘sold  out’. And now that I remember in store they confirmed to me it is out of production.  

Edited January 19, 2021 by poli

[otto.f]

2 minutes ago, poli said:

Amsterdam

That’s my area too. Now that the Fotos app works smoothly, at last, they could bring it back...

[poli]

1 minute ago, otto.f said:

That’s my area too. Now that the Fotos app works smoothly, at last, they could bring it back...

Oh I did not realise. Didn’t hear an accent. 😉

[benqui]

To me the M 10-D is one of the most beautiful digital M cameras ever. Your brain says it is stupid, your heart says what a great camera. My G.A.S is growing and growing...

[fenykepesz]

it is indeed a beautiful camera, and it does what i tell it to do.  nothing more, nothing less.  no distraction whatsoever.  that's what my photographic work style wants from a camera.  only quirks i would love to see solved for the M10-D are  :

- 1) the repositioning of the main power switch to the top

-  2) the fixing of that slow wake up time to something like 100ms or so.

Edited January 19, 2021 by fenykepesz

[Guest]

I think Steven because of Leica's discontinuation of the M10-D and it's comparative rarity that the camera's value will probably stabilse at a relatively higher level than say a M10-P and in regards to finding a "mint" one  at a good price that could well be hard because as you will note most of us that do own the camera intend to keep it. 

[chasdfg]

It's a digital camera, so it'll continue to lose its value. Can't imagine any digital camera being a collectible (unless it was used and/or signed by a photography great). As Peter said, I too believe many owners intend to keep theirs, so there are less floating around which makes it harder to find used cause I don't think many were made to begin with and so prices may hold better. I think the M240P and MD262 are priced about the same at the moment, or maybe the MD262 slightly more (despite the MD262 being based on the M262). This is all speculation but while the MD262 is seen by those who own it as a "true" purist film-like digital camera, the M10D has its perks too, like M10 form factor and thumb rest, a slightly better sensor and for those who can disregard these functions when not used, offers WIFI and EVF capability. So these may help hold its value too, depending on what the M11D offers.

To me there's little point in buying a digital camera with the hope or speculation it'll appreciate or be valued $X down the road. I just use the cost of the MD262 or M240P as gauges to estimate how much the M10P/D would be worth down the road so I can calculate cost per month/year to see if I can justify owning the camera. I get the feeling (going by all the threads you've started) that you should be able to afford to use both the M10D and M10P at the same time for a couple of months to see which you prefer in the long run. If that's the case, why not? You can use it for 1 or 2 months (give it a good go as your only M), leave the M10P and M7 aside and see how you get along with it. If you don't like it, you can sell it for what you got it for. If you do, you can consider selling the M10P and M7. If the M10D really holds its value than the M10P, you'd also have a camera which may be worth more than the M10P a few years down the road. If not, it'll only be a few hundred bucks difference.

Side thing, I don't think the M10D was discontinued due to the wheel or anything like that. Just like how the MD262 had a relatively short production run, this camera did too, probably for streamlining product lines since Leica is really a relatively small camera manufacturer. It being discontinued was part of the reason why I jumped at the opportunity to pick mine up.

[MRJohn]

This might be it for the M10 iteration of this concept. But I think it is more likely than not that we will see a new one at some point, maybe as an M11-D. And then hopefully we have bluetooth vs WIFI, a fixed power wheel, a more comprehensive app to set lenses etc, a better visoflex integration, perhaps an EVF (I would love that even though it breaks with a tradition) or hybrid VF...  Would I upgrade? Not sure. Would I get one if mine died? Sure.