pico Posted January 20, 2019 Share #21 Posted January 20, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 41 minutes ago, Trivette said: I simply enjoy taking pictures, so the convenience and simplicity of the M cameras make them preferable to the admittedly exquisite machinery and beauty of the LTMs. Excellent. Let's take it back a couple generations to the 0-Serie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trivette Posted January 20, 2019 Share #22 Posted January 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, pico said: Excellent. Let's take it back a couple generations to the 0-Serie. Indeed! ☺️ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmrider2 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted January 21, 2019 I enjoy classic engineering like fountain pens, analogue watches and Colt Peacemakers. My main worry about another film camera is I simply don't shoot enough but if I am honest I enjoy owning classic items like the above (including cameras). This past week I have rediscovered the fun of my original love, a Nikon F. I had a plain prism F for several years and had it CLA'ed a few years ago. It sat in the camera cabinet not being used as I had several other cameras (Leica's, blad's, etc) and the only lens I had for it seemed to be in need of a bit of work (image seemed a bit fuzzy on the focus screen but at 66 I could not rule out my eyesight). I owned the camera primarily for its nostalgic value from my time as a news photographer in the early 1970's. Well, I got a 55f3.5 Micro Nikkor from KEH in excellent condition for $75 and I now remember why Nikon F's ruled for photojournalism and sports in the late 1960's and early 1970's. And the Micro Nikkor does things no Leica could ever do. Now my present film Leica is an M5 and it is a great shooter but small it isn't (Nor is my MP240). In fact, the M5 seems to be almost a Nikon F clone in size so I am imagining the LTM (3F RD ST) will be my compact travel camera going along in the tank bag on motorcycle adventures, a backup for either my MP240 or M5 on foreign trips, or perhaps even teamed with the Nikon F but carrying two cameras both with 50's seems stretching things a bit. Anyway, thanks everyone for the comments on LTM cameras on this thread. The 3F arrives in a couple days and I will update my experiences after I put a few rolls through it. I suspect it will either be a love or hate relationship. Sherry Krakauer's favorite lens is the 50f3.5 Elmar and I am looking forward to seeing how it performs and if there is any magic in a lens design almost 100 years old. Not a big deal if there is as my favorite handgun is a 1911 Colt ACP and its design if over 110 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmrider2 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted January 21, 2019 And as for the "O" series, I believe it was Ansel Adams who said "No photographer has ever exploited a pin hole camera to its full potential." Or words to that effect. If I did photography for a living, I am sure I would own the latest, greatest Canikon but I left photography as a career in 1975 so now if I want to use a 50 or 70 year old camera, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 21, 2019 Share #25 Posted January 21, 2019 Hi ktm... just an aside...the Micro Nikkor 55mm f3.5 works beautifully on the M240 (need Ni adapter and the Visoflex, of course). Good through all focal distances from close-up 1:2, through to infinity. Haven't tried the PK rings to get 1:1yet. I love to use my Barnack camera too. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted January 21, 2019 Share #26 Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 9:46 PM, pico said: Excellent. Let's take it back a couple generations to the 0-Serie. Wet plate! Ready made film is for wimps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 21, 2019 Share #27 Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 18 minutes ago, schattenundlicht said: Wet plate! Ready made film is for wimps. Camera Obscura, chalk, charcoal, coloured wax, elbow grease and lots of coffee! Edited January 21, 2019 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted January 21, 2019 Share #28 Posted January 21, 2019 You beat me to it Pico! The historic camera obscura in Edinburg omitted the chalk, etc. so you were left with your memories of the (moving) image of the city. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktmrider2 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted January 24, 2019 As I think about this and having had a chance to handle a LTM, I am wondering if it is for me. Perhaps I should stick to the M series. I will post once I make a decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 24, 2019 Share #30 Posted January 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, ktmrider2 said: As I think about this and having had a chance to handle a LTM, I am wondering if it is for me. Perhaps I should stick to the M series. I will post once I make a decision. LTM cameras have poor viewfinder/range finders. There is a good reason the M3 took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted January 25, 2019 Share #31 Posted January 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, pico said: LTM cameras have poor viewfinder/range finders. There is a good reason the M3 took over. I would agree on the viewfinder. I find the rangefinder of the Barnacks, when it is clean and contrasty, to be better. More magnification = easier to focus. The advantage of the Ms is the combination of the two, which is much quicker to focus, then shoot. The solution to the viewfinder is a SBOOI (for 50mm lens), which beats out any M viewfinder ever made (IMO). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambro51 Posted January 25, 2019 Share #32 Posted January 25, 2019 80% of the sheer delight of a Barnack Leica is holding until its warm. Just looking at it, not even thinking....just letting your eyes absorb it’s perfect mechanical design. Holding it, looking at the reflections off its lens. All cameras do Not need to be used daily, a nice shelf is good too. .....use your LTM as if it is simply “the camera”. Forget its basic oddness and lit it dance for you. A warning though, these things are addictive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted January 25, 2019 Share #33 Posted January 25, 2019 Pre war screw Leicas look nicer than M cameras as subjects for photography Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/293343-m-film-users-vs-ltm/?do=findComment&comment=3671533'>More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted January 26, 2019 Share #34 Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) My latest and oldest 35mm. I didn't have a model 1(A) or a model II, or an 11 o'clock Elmar, so I added all three in one. This started out as a 1929 1(A) later upgraded to a II. The body flange shows it was standardized. The Elmar has no serial and is not marked as standardized, but focuses fine on my M10. I had learned my "Leica grip" on models with the 7 o'clock lenses, so always used my left hand fingers on the infinity lock / lens tab. The 11 o'clock on the model II falls nicely under the middle finger of the right hand, so I see why lenses were made this way until the III slow speeds required a change. This Elmar has the worst central veiling flare I've seen, even without visible haze. My other uncoated Elmars (to 1941) don't show this. Yet it focuses well and is sharp. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 26, 2019 by TomB_tx 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/293343-m-film-users-vs-ltm/?do=findComment&comment=3672090'>More sharing options...
PFM Posted January 28, 2019 Share #35 Posted January 28, 2019 I went the opposite direction, from LTM to M. What I always like about the LTM bodies is the collapsible Elmar design, giving you a very compact package in the pocket. And some of the 35mm offerings (W-Nikkor 35/3.5) are small enough it's like an Elmar you don't have to extend. Combine that with with a single focal length finder, and it still can slip in and out of a jacket pocket without trouble. But since I got the M4-P it has gotten the most use of all the rangefinders. Mainly that is due to my wanting to get used to using it, and I now have a wider range of focal lengths to use on it than the LTM's. I expect that to change once I get back into a more common cycle of camera usage. There are times when the M system is best to use, and times when I just want to use an LTM body. And I have to slip in some SLR/DSLR use too. Don't worry about how much you use whatever camera, just as long as they all get some exercise every so often. PF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 31, 2019 Share #36 Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 7:23 AM, jmahto said: Well, you made me do it! I have one IIIc with 50mm Summitar on my way! Can't wait! Finally!! It is here and I am happy as a clam! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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