Strap and Handgrip with RRS-L Plate

[Enbee]

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Hello - 

 

The existing strap for Leica SL is straining my neck too much and I am looking out for alternatives.

 

I have an RRS-L Plate attached to my camera and was wondering which strap may work good. 

For Straps - it seems the Brouge SL - https://www.harrybenz.com/shop/the-brogue-sl - seems like a good option. 

 

Sun Sniper Pro 2 looks like a good option as well: https://www.amazon.com/SUN-SNIPER-Professional-Camera-ROTABALL-SSN-RB-PRO/dp/B01DUK91OM

 

I am unsure if they will both fit with the RRS L-Plate. 

 

For the handgrip - Herringbone seems like a great choice https://www.amazon.com/Herringbone-Heritage-Camera-Wrist-Leather/dp/B0148WDN22/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538989747&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=herringbone+heritage+leather+camera+hand+grip+tape+2

 

and so does: https://www.eddycam.com/en/shop/slings/SLiNG-2-L-hand-strap.html

 

I use the camera while walking around and also use it for landscapes. For walking around I use the 24-90 lens and will be using the 16-35 lens in the future. 

 

I have never used a handgrip before and wondering if I should try a hand grip or should I stick to neck strap. If you have other options or alternatives, please suggest the same. 

 

Thanks,

Nitesh 

[thighslapper]

The Herringbone is the best bet and excellent value...... an ideal match for the SL RRS plate. Being leather it stretches and moulds to your hand with time. Fitted right, the camera will dangle when carried with almost no grip required. 

 

I also attached Peak Design loops to the top right strap lug on the SL and bottom right lug on the RRS so I can attach it to a PD shoulder strap when required, so the camera then hangs on my L hip or behind me in the small of my back. 

 

Wide shoulder straps are far more comfortable than any neck straps for the SL ..... unless you are using small M sized lenses. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by thighslapper

[Ingo]

I have the RRS plate on all my cameras.

I also use the Eddycam Hand Strap on one of my SLs and I'm very happy with it. The SL is attached to my belt and the Hand Strap gives me some extra security when holding the camera.

For the other two bodies I use a dual camera harness which is very comfortable. 

 

 

[Jenningsmca]

I use RRS plates for quite a while now and have purchased the new QD Strap they offer for my SL. Love that it quickly connects and detaches from the strap.

As always with RRS, I feel confident in their products. Have not had any incidents with any of their products letting me down.

 

http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/QD-Strap-Plate?quantity=1&custcol46=1

 

MJ

[helged]

I use RRS plates for quite a while now and have purchased the new QD Strap they offer for my SL. Love that it quickly connects and detaches from the strap.

As always with RRS, I feel confident in their products. Have not had any incidents with any of their products letting me down.

 

http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/QD-Strap-Plate?quantity=1&custcol46=1

 

MJ

 

 

I use the same RSS QD Strap system, actually two, so that I can carry two systems similarly to what Ingo shows higher up in the thread. The RSS QD System can take any weight you can imagine. I use it, typically, with a large DSLR + a long lens, or SL + any lens, no problem. But comfortable, it is not...

[Sandokan]

HI Nitesh, 

 

I gave up on neck straps for heavy cameras many years ago. 

 

I use a handgrip, or I use an Artisan and Artist strap which I wrap around my wrist and hold the camera by the handgrip. It works for me. 

 

an alternative is the Optech handstrap with a loop attached to a ring which is on the eyelet. 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

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I also use the QD mounts. I bought a bunch of QD attachments with my baseplate and I've just modified my existing RRS sling straps and Holdfast dual straps to use the QD mounts.

 

Gordon

[wmcl]

I concur with thighslapper. I acquired the SL in December 2017, and, after reading Peter Walker's post on Which bag for the SL that mentioned the Herringbone Heritage Hand Strap, I purchased one and, FYI, provided the following customer review documenting its installation.

 

"I purchased the Herringbone Heritage Hand Strap for use on my Leica SL (Typ 601) equipped with a Really Right Stuff BSL L-Plate. I chose the all black version which complements the camera nicely. Although the hand strap is shipped elegantly packaged, I highly recommend watching the YouTube video tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esRsVL4IBsM) in lieu of trying to figure out the included written instructions. I did not install the included camera base tripod mount as it is redundant to the RRS base plate. But, it's worth the minimal extra cost to include the plate with the Type I Hand Strap as opposed to excluding the base tripod mount in the Type 2 alternative—it may become useful in a future application of the hand strap, and it is not available for purchase separately. The gap to thread the leather strap to the base of the RRS is quite difficult, but not impossible. The strap measures 15/32" (11.9mm) wide by 5/64" (2.0mm) thick, which is slightly thicker than the gap allowed in the RRS's strap lug on the base plate, but it can be accomplished by carefully and methodically pushing the end through, and the rest of the strap can then be pulled through with a little effort. I also installed the included black auxiliary carrying strap plate (the one with three slots) in order to attach a neck strap. The distance between the camera strap lug on the top of the Leica SL body and the strap lug on the RRS' base plate is approximately 3-3/4" (90mm). I threaded the end of the strap, as seen in the video's final installation step, through the first leather loop on the bottom (which is also very tight for a combined three-thicknesses of leather), and, lastly, installed the provided strap holder with the metal snap connector to the top of the strap (instead of at the bottom as shown in the video) in order to keep the added auxiliary strap plate away from and to protect the SL's top dial. Once the strap is completely installed, there is approximately 4-1/4" (108mm) of extra strap exposed. I simply looped it back and single-knotted it at the bottom of the hand strap. The Herringbone Heritage Hand Strap is loose enough to be comfortable, provides plenty of hand room to access the camera controls, and has adequate space to open the door over the memory cards to exchange them. It's merely the difficulty threading the long leather strap through the tight RRS base plate lug, and leather and metal loops that make it challenging and time consuming. Patience and tenacity are definitely required, but no tools are either needed or should be used that could damage the leather strap. For alternative carrying, there are neck straps available with quick disconnects (e.g., Peak Design, Tamrac). Mine is a Tamrac strap with quick release connectors. With or without the neck strap attached, the Herringbone Heritage Hand Strap provides added security and support while handholding, and subtle comfort when carrying the camera. I'm pleased with the results and highly recommend this product."

 

BTW, when transporting my SL + 24-90mm with accessories, they are conveniently carried in a Billingham f4.5 camera bag.

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[Enbee]

On 10/8/2018 at 2:46 PM, helged said:

 

 

I use the same RSS QD Strap system, actually two, so that I can carry two systems similarly to what Ingo shows higher up in the thread. The RSS QD System can take any weight you can imagine. I use it, typically, with a large DSLR + a long lens, or SL + any lens, no problem. But comfortable, it is not...

RSS QD seems to be unavailable at this point. Thank You for your suggestions. 

[Enbee]

Thank You everyone! 

Ravi - I agree with you that neck straps may not be so useful and I may have to give it up soon. But yesterday as I was clicking I needed the strap because I had to hold the children I was photographing. Let me see. A combination as suggested by wmcl seems to be a good to try.  

[RoySmith]

On 10/10/2018 at 3:10 AM, Enbee said:

Thank You everyone! 

Ravi - I agree with you that neck straps may not be so useful and I may have to give it up soon. But yesterday as I was clicking I needed the strap because I had to hold the children I was photographing. Let me see. A combination as suggested by wmcl seems to be a good to try.  

I purchased the Harry Benz Brogue SL strap in the 130 cm length and despite its narrowish width of 3/4” (19mm) find it very comfortable. I wear it cross body with the SL and RRS plate. Looking from the back of the camera, it’s attached to the upper left camera attachment and the bottom right RRS plate attachment. With this Setup I can carry the SL with 24-90 VE for hours of walking without discomfort. The camera hangs by my hip with lens pointing down. Make sure you get the correct length for your torso length.

Edited October 11, 2018 by RoySmith

[andrewteee]

I'm also searching for strap alternatives for the SL. I currently use the Peak Design Slide strap and I'm finding that the quick adjusters are sliding under the weight of the SL + 24-90 (otherwise, I love the Peak Design straps). I may also look into a hand strap, but I'd like to find a shoulder strap too. Any recommendations appreciated. 

[howiebrou]

On 10/16/2018 at 1:52 AM, andrewteee said:

I'm also searching for strap alternatives for the SL. I currently use the Peak Design Slide strap and I'm finding that the quick adjusters are sliding under the weight of the SL + 24-90 (otherwise, I love the Peak Design straps). I may also look into a hand strap, but I'd like to find a shoulder strap too. Any recommendations appreciated. 

Rock and Roll straps are supremely comfortable for across the shoulder carrying. I have 3 for my cameras and they are wide enough to be comfortable, soft enough to not irritate and springy enough to allow some bounce. I wear my cameras behind my right hip so they don't keep banging as you walk. Highly recommended. You hardly feel the camera weight.

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[roofus]

On 10/8/2018 at 1:06 PM, Jenningsmca said:

I use RRS plates for quite a while now and have purchased the new QD Strap they offer for my SL. Love that it quickly connects and detaches from the strap.

As always with RRS, I feel confident in their products. Have not had any incidents with any of their products letting me down.

 

http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/QD-Strap-Plate?quantity=1&custcol46=1

 

MJ

That's what I use as well! Strong, simple, secure.

[Leicaiste]

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/253630-recommended-l-plate-for-leica-sl/?do=findComment&comment=3210161

 

[hofo100]

+1 for the Harry Benz The Brogue - really surprising how comfortable this strap is despite its narrow width. And to my knowledge the only strap that addresses the topic of the stylish but for normal straps unfavorable position of how the strap has to be attached at the SL...

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[haribo]

On 11/24/2018 at 9:08 AM, hofo100 said:

+1 for the Harry Benz The Brogue - really surprising how comfortable this strap is despite its narrow width. And to my knowledge the only strap that addresses the topic of the stylish but for normal straps unfavorable position of how the strap has to be attached at the SL...

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Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it.

I'd like to take this opportunity and explain a few things about a strap's width and how comfortable it is to wear.
Although it goes against common belief, the two things - strap width and comfort - have in fact nothing to do with each other.
It doesn't really matter how wide a strap is. Other factors are way more important when it comes to carrying comfort. Things like what kind of leather/material the strap is made from, its  thickness, whether it stretches or not, if the edges are beveled or not, and if the material is slippery or not, and so on.

It's just like with shoulder pads. Many people believe they are necessary. But they do so for the wrong reasons.
Let me explain: The concept behind shoulder pads is to distribute the load over a larger surface to enhance carrying comfort (=making the load feel lighter). Technically, the idea is sound. But unfortunately, it doesn't translate to real experiences. You see, to actually make a true difference a shoulder pad has to be wide. Very wide. So wide in fact it would render it completely uncomfortable and unpractical to wear.
In short, those mini shoulder pads one usually finds on camera straps do absolutely nothing to enhance carrying comfort. Most people don't realize that the true reason for using them, has nothing to do with weight distribution whatsoever. In fact, those small shoulder pads are a band-aide solution to fix a completely different problem.
Most leather straps are made from cow leather. It doesn't matter whether it's fine Italian or thick, rugged cow leather from who knows where. As long as its cow, it's all the same.
And therein lies the problem.
Cow leather has a very fleshy underside, aka suede. When wearing, those fleshy fibers quickly mat together. Which makes the strap as slippery as an ice rink.
And that is what drives most people bonkers.
Because shoulder straps have commonly a ruff or textured underside, all they really do is keep a strap, cow leather or nylon, from slipping and sliding. Period.

Now you know why I do not use cow leather for my straps.
Water-Buffalo is naturally structured differently than cow leather (different species) and therefore doesn't slip and slide. Basically,  I eliminated the problem all together.
This fact alone increases wearing comfort drastically. And that without increasing the width of a strap or the need for other band-aide solutions.

I hope, this explains why my straps are so comfortable "despite its narrow width".

-Harry

[MarkinVan]

I concur with Helged and Jenningsmca about the RRS QD Strap Swivel - D Loop on the RRS SL L-Plate.

I had a Black Rapid Shoulder Strap already that I use with QD QD Strap Swivel - D Loop and it is so much more secure than the Black Rapid Strap Swivel.

Picked up the Camdapter HandStrap at the same time from RRS.

http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Hand-Strap-from-Camdapter 

All works great!

[SJ2018#2]

Am 8.10.2018 um 14:12 schrieb Ingo:

I have the RRS plate on all my cameras.

I also use the Eddycam Hand Strap on one of my SLs and I'm very happy with it. The SL is attached to my belt and the Hand Strap gives me some extra security when holding the camera.

For the other two bodies I use a dual camera harness which is very comfortable. 

 

 

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Hallo Ingo,

ich wollte Dich mal fragen ob Du mit dem Doppel-Kameragurt noch zufrieden bist. Sind z.B. die Halterungen sicher? Ich möchte mir nämlich auch einen zulegen.

Hast Du ihn direkt in USA bestellt? Weißt Du auch wie es sich mit den Größen verhält? Was sagen sie aus? Hast das mit der Kleidergröße des Benutzers zu tun?

Würde mich freuen, wenn ich Antwort von Dir bekomme.

 

Viele Grüße

Axel

 

 

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[Ingo]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb SJ2018#2:

Hallo Ingo,

ich wollte Dich mal fragen ob Du mit dem Doppel-Kameragurt noch zufrieden bist. Sind z.B. die Halterungen sicher? Ich möchte mir nämlich auch einen zulegen.

Hast Du ihn direkt in USA bestellt? Weißt Du auch wie es sich mit den Größen verhält? Was sagen sie aus? Hast das mit der Kleidergröße des Benutzers zu tun?

Würde mich freuen, wenn ich Antwort von Dir bekomme.

 

Viele Grüße

Axel

 

 

Hallo Axel,

man muss ihn tatsächlich in den USA bestellen. Ich bin 193cm und mit Größe M zufrieden von der Passform. Die Halterungen sind okay, ich habe allerdings auf die ReallyRight Staff Q-Swivel (heißen die so?) umgerüstet.