adan Posted January 2, 2022 Share #701 Posted January 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ummm - Leica just followed Ralph Waldo Emerson's dictum that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds?" BTW - the ones with the feet in front clearly produce better pictures! ....................... More seriously, it might be related to the move of most of the rest of the M system manufacturing to Canada in 1977 or so. And a simultaneous "revision" of the M lens lineup around 1980 (although the 35 f/1.4 was not among the new/revised lenses that I know of). Might also be related to the prominence ($$$$) of the imperial-units market (UK/USA) at that time - even Canada was only just beginning to switch over. I do have a 90mm TE from 1977 - has m in front and feet behind. I have a 135mm TE (Wetzlar) from 1988 that is the same. OTOH all my other Leitz/Leica M lenses from 1983-today (21/28) have feet in front and m behind. Check the S/N on your 35s and date them, and see if that is a clue. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 Hi adan, Take a look here 35mm 1.4 Summilux pre-asph. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
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shirubadanieru Posted January 2, 2022 Share #703 Posted January 2, 2022 Does anyone own the Infinity lock version of the Summilux pre-asph? I’ve been trying to find one online to try it out but can’t seem to find it anywhere. If you have it could you post your thoughts / share some images? And if anyone has one that’s going unused let me know too on a message or something Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted January 2, 2022 Share #704 Posted January 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Steven said: I have all batches of these early V2 with infinity lock. Some of them are among my best pre asphs. there’s one for sale on eBay UK right now, but for a ridiculous price. i also know someone in Thailand selling one, but he repainted the body to cover signs of use. Pm if you want …. Wow that’s amazing, how did you even find those! Dropped you a PM. Share some results you took with them here if you have any readily available : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted January 4, 2022 Share #705 Posted January 4, 2022 Since we have access to the leading authority on the pre-ASPH lens here.... @Steven How do you feel about the hierarchy of glow that TASHUSA shows in the linked blog post? I've got a 254xxxx built in 1972 that I've been using exclusively for a while...month or more. I'm getting the feel for the lens and finding that I might prefer it at f/1.7 or f/2.0 a little more than f/1.4 generally. But there are occasions that want the f/1.4 blowout! Back to my question, TASHUSA indicates that my version is the most glowy. Can I think in terms of an equivalence between my version at some aperture and the titanium or infinity lock versions wide open? I'm asking because I'm thinking about picking one or the other. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted January 4, 2022 Share #706 Posted January 4, 2022 I don't understand this glow hierarchy. Whilst it might seem desirable now (at least in certain circumstances) glow would have surely been treated as a lens aberration to be eliminated, or at least minimized, by designers. Why would glow have increased so much from the steel rim to the Canada pre-asph II? Unless there was some other compensating improvement in some other aspect of lens performance which came at the expense of increased spherical aberration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted January 4, 2022 Share #707 Posted January 4, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/2/2022 at 1:11 AM, pippy said: In my book being able to use colour filters when shooting in black and white is a fundamental skill which photographers should understand and be able to utilise in order for them to realise their vision as and when deemed appropriate. There is nothing whatsoever 'unpure' about this approach at all. Carry On the Good Work, Graham! Philip. Thanks Phillip. Agree, and thanks for the reminder of “when appropriate). I kept the yellow filter on kind of permanently for a while (being lazy really as changing filters of course requires splitting the hood). I think it will be better to pick and choose the correct application Although in saying that I ‘think’ the yellow filter gave more contrast for street photography also which gave pleasing results. That’s where my “purist” comment came from because if we are Changing the contrast of a lens at almost all times maybe that feels a bit wrong. Although no different to post producing to taste I guess. I changed developing lab around the same time so hard to know for sure, and I will have to keep experimenting once I get this nice lens back from snapped-focus-tab Repair all the best for 2022 ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted January 4, 2022 Share #708 Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Steven said: His hierarchy sounds ... Thank you for your well considered reply. I'm now curious, have you seen counterfeit pre-ASPH on the market? I'm asking because I see a brass infinity lock version with a higher serial number than my lens. Did the infinity lock come and go, or is something strange going on ? I guess I've been assuming that infinity lock versions came earlier and got phased out over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 4, 2022 Share #709 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, grahamc said: ...I ‘think’ the yellow filter gave more contrast for street photography also which gave pleasing results. That’s where my “purist” comment came from because if we are Changing the contrast of a lens at almost all times maybe that feels a bit wrong. Although no different to post producing to taste I guess... Thanks for the good wishes, Graham, and the same back to you and yours! In terms of 'changing the contrast...at almost all times' is concerned - when discussing B'N'W snapping - there is not much difference in 'purist' terms from sticking with a yellow filter than (for instance), when shooting film, deciding on which film emulsion to use; which film developer to use; which dilution of chosen developer to use; what processing time to use; what dev. temperature to use; what agitation method to use; what type of enlarger to use; which printing paper to use; what contrast of paper to use; which paper developer to use...and on...and on...and on... I don't believe there is such a thing as a 'Purist' approach to photography (and would argue as much quite happily). All photography relies upon the photographer making decisions and every decision he or she makes will affect the look of the end result and the End Result is all that matters. Philip. Edited January 4, 2022 by pippy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted January 4, 2022 Share #710 Posted January 4, 2022 I'm seeing that the Ti finish version is pretty available. Doing some research, I see two batches. One in 1992 and one in 1990. s/n 3599720 to 3602719 35mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black+titanium) 1992 qty 3000 s/n 3519796 to 3520295 35mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELW.black+titan) 1990 qty 500 Would you steer one way or another for a Ti version? Or am I looking at lens to lens variability as being more significant than the actual batches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 4, 2022 Share #711 Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 9:46 AM, LocalHero1953 said: Wells Cathedral... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Frederick H. Evans would be proud!... Philip. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 4, 2022 Share #712 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, pippy said: Frederick H. Evans would be proud!... Philip. I have to admit I had never heard of him or that image till looking it up just now🙄. He got a better angle on it with his large format camera, probably with front rise. I see he took nine years to take the definitive photo. It's a very photogenic spot and a good reminder for the photographer not to take more credit for an image than the subject matter! Edited January 4, 2022 by LocalHero1953 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 4, 2022 Share #713 Posted January 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: I have to admit I had never heard of him or that image till looking it up just now🙄. He got a better angle on it with his large format camera, probably with front rise. I see he took nine years to take the definitive photo. It's a very photogenic spot and a good reminder for the photographer not to take more credit for an image than the subject matter! Hi Paul! I'm slightly surprised to read that as I honestly thought you were making an homage to the man and his snap; in which case I'll say 'Nice Photographs!'... He probably had quite a bit of assistance from those in ecclesiastical power as well in order to be given carte blanche as far as using all his kit was concerned. I seriously doubt that Joe Bloggs could just roll-up and duplicate his efforts today... Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 4, 2022 Share #714 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pippy said: Hi Paul! I'm slightly surprised to read that as I honestly thought you were making an homage to the man and his snap; in which case I'll say 'Nice Photographs!'... He probably had quite a bit of assistance from those in ecclesiastical power as well in order to be given carte blanche as far as using all his kit was concerned. I seriously doubt that Joe Bloggs could just roll-up and duplicate his efforts today... Philip. The third photo in the set of three that I posted was taken from outside the door at the bottom of the stairs. Evans must have been just inside the door round to the right, either with a camera on a tripod with front rise, or on a very high tripod and stepladder in order to straighten out the verticals. I was lucky - on 27 December there was hardly anyone else there, but I still had only a fraction of a second to get both shots with no one in them. They weather was 'English grey' so there were no shadows to manage. Edited January 4, 2022 by LocalHero1953 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcusick Posted January 7, 2022 Share #715 Posted January 7, 2022 I've been using this lens mostly on my M4. I forgot how much I friggin love it on the M10R. Union Station. M10R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4347155'>More sharing options...
rcusick Posted January 7, 2022 Share #716 Posted January 7, 2022 Same... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4347157'>More sharing options...
rcusick Posted January 7, 2022 Share #717 Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Rancho Palos Verdes. M10r. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 7, 2022 by rcusick 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/288041-35mm-14-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4347206'>More sharing options...
t_air_ee Posted January 7, 2022 Share #718 Posted January 7, 2022 9 hours ago, rcusick said: Rancho Palos Verdes. M10r. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! From palm trees (love the BB-8 kites!), to Brooklyn's first snow of the season 35mm summilux v1 (black paint with goggles), M10-R black paint 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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