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Here's another example of the M10-D just doing the right thing without my having to chimp or review the histogram in the attached EVF.  It's the last night of Hanuka, so I just took a few spare shots to get a selection of exposures on the candles.  One try for the faces and singing.  Don't need no steenkin' histogram!

L1009242 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr APO SC 50 M@f/2.0

L1009245 3 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

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Two weeks ago I had the opportunity to visit Paris for the first time. It was a delight! The M10-D felt almost like my old M4-P. I wish the shutter lever could wind the shutter. 😉

 

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Saßnitz in Rügen, Germany

M10-D with 28mm Elmarit-ASPH 

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Considering the M10-D  I’m concerned that I have non-coded lenses (including a 35 Summicron v5).

i currently have that lens programmed in my M10

Can, and how will the M10-D be set up.

thanks.

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At the moment FOTOS plus the M10-D can't program a lens profile manually,.  The information is in the firmware (since it runs M10-P firmware) but we can't reach it yet.  Multiple people, better connected than me, have suggested this, so I am hopeful that it will get addressed in a firmware upgrade.

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Am 9.12.2018 um 23:01 schrieb scott kirkpatrick:

Here's another example of the M10-D just doing the right thing without my having to chimp or review the histogram in the attached EVF.  It's the last night of Hanuka, so I just took a few spare shots to get a selection of exposures on the candles.  One try for the faces and singing.  Don't need no steenkin' histogram!

L1009242 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr APO SC 50 M@f/2.0

L1009245 3 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

After selecting desired aperture and ISO, I would have chosen -0.7 EV in A Mode for the first one and taken a second shot at slightly faster shutter speed. For the second picture, one shot at EV -0.7 would suffice IMO.

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17 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

At the moment FOTOS plus the M10-D can't program a lens profile manually,.  The information is in the firmware (since it runs M10-P firmware) but we can't reach it yet.  Multiple people, better connected than me, have suggested this, so I am hopeful that it will get addressed in a firmware upgrade.

 

Currently,

(1) is the 10-D recognising the lens coding. Presumably it is visible in the EXIF data.

(2) is there any obvious problem when uncoded lenses are fitted.

thanks.  What does the EXIF record contain regarding the lens.

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On 1/2/2019 at 1:27 AM, lucerne said:

Considering the M10-D  I’m concerned that I have non-coded lenses (including a 35 Summicron v5).

i currently have that lens programmed in my M10

Can, and how will the M10-D be set up.

thanks.

Hi Gordon

I think you will be fine in most cases. Lenses 35mm and up really are not expected to produce any issues regarding color shift. Lightroom has a lot of lens profiles. They will take care of vignetting and some other stuff I don't completely understand,  but they won't care for the odd color shift, which we happen to see from some lenses (4.5/21 Zeiss Biogon etc). I have the MD 262 and use occasionally an older 2/50, 3.5/35 LTM and a 2.8/90 on it with no problems.

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12 hours ago, lucerne said:

Currently,

(1) is the 10-D recognising the lens coding. Presumably it is visible in the EXIF data.

(2) is there any obvious problem when uncoded lenses are fitted.

thanks.  What does the EXIF record contain regarding the lens.

(1) The M10-D tries hard to make sense of lens codings, even when there are none.  I tried an old Canon 35/2.0 LTM lens in an adapter that was somewhat mottled on the back side, and my -D decided that this was a Leica R to M adapter.  I can see that in the Visoflex 20 and in the EXIF but, unfortunately, not yet  in Fotos on an iPad.  The lines above and below the live view that you see in the EVF are not passed to the remote app.  Other uncoded lenses that I have have traces of Sharpie-coding on their mounts.  My -D identified a Zeiss 21/2.8 as a WATE 16mm (this might not be a mistake.  Both are very telecentric and don't need much correction, so I might have coded it that way on purpose.)  It also identified a CV 21/4.0 as a 28/2.8 asph, which shares the very short back focus of the CV.  The instruction manual says that uncoded lenses and lenses in the R to M adapter will not generate any record in the Exif, but this is apparently not quite true.

(2) no.

 

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Just for fun, here's the M10-D using my oldest lens, a Canon 35/2.0 rangefinder lens that came on my M2 long ago:

L1009871 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

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She, not it  Females can combine the coat genes of as many as four ancestors, and Tai represents an amalgam of at least black, orange, and striped predecessors with patches of white as well.  She has white whiskers on one side and black whiskers on the other.  She stowed away as a kitten in a student's car to escape the inner city neighborhood of her birth, was hand-raised in our laboratory of complex systems. Truly a random tiger-cat mix.

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4 hours ago, wattsy said:

No but an IR filter might have been handy.

For candlelight?  I'll have to try it.  I still have a drawer-full of them.  I have two versions of that shot around somewhere.  One with AWB and the other white balanced to make the wall come out white, which does leave the people looking a bit flushed.

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7 hours ago, wattsy said:

No but an IR filter might have been handy.

Not really - the pink faces come from using the default "daylight" camera calibration or profile. Which, once an image is white-balanced for extreme yellow light, removing too much yellow from pale skin (a tint of orange), makes the skin magenta.

Take it from a pro who has corrected hundreds of faces shot under low-Kelvin light, with or without IR filters, M8/9/10 -  you will STILL have to use a separate calibration (red primary shifted +10-20 yellow depending on the light's Kelvin color) to "de-pink" skin. Use the correct profile and the presence or absence of an IR filter has neglible effect.

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