scott kirkpatrick Posted June 15, 2018 Share #441 Posted June 15, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought he was specific about the date in June, a little vague about how it affected the L-mounts cameras. And remember that the interview was shot in Sept 2017, held until recently because of material that was confidential when it was shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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indergaard Posted June 15, 2018 Share #442 Posted June 15, 2018 He said L mount, not SL specifically, and in June, no date as I recall. This has been mentioned here a bunch of times. Still 2 weeks left in June.... but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Jeff Correct. I guess everyone assumed it would be at this event since it was specific June in the LULA interview. It is mentioned at 23:30 in this YouTube interview/video: https://youtu.be/0_29tvJbm1M?t=23m30s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted June 15, 2018 Share #443 Posted June 15, 2018 Watches, a rebadged Panasonic and a special edition M, pretty good no... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandK Posted June 15, 2018 Share #444 Posted June 15, 2018 This applies to working hospital surgeons so you're Ok ) Just to.maintain this far more interesting sub thread, here in Scotland dentists do reside under the title of Dr even if their qualification is a BDS (Bachelor of Dental Surgery) but then medical practitioners with MB ChB have long used the same honorific title. Mind you it seems to be receptionists - those fiery guardians of the gate - who seem to like to maintain the Dr status rather than the individuals who often are happy with first name terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share #445 Posted June 15, 2018 Correct. I guess everyone assumed it would be at this event since it was specific June in the LULA interview. It is mentioned at 23:30 in this YouTube interview/video: https://youtu.be/0_29tvJbm1M?t=23m30s Exactly... June, but not date specific. Others added that bit, including the Rumors site, which appears to have whiffed on this one, at least timing wise. This rumor took off more than usual since there are many here who have wanted either a smaller SL or an M with EVF, and this seemed to strike a chord with both groups. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted June 15, 2018 Share #446 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) This rumor took off more than usual since there are many here who have wanted either a smaller SL or an M with EVF, and this seemed to strike a chord with both groups. Even without a major announcement an updated lens roadmap for SL and TL lenses would have been nice, honestly... Edited June 15, 2018 by JorisV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted June 15, 2018 Share #447 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) New Leica products announced.. Firstly..the Leica... Doughnut..w/jelly interior & red jelly dot outside..will be available at all Leica Coffee shops..only $35- ea..with purchase of a Leica $25- Latte..reg. red dot doughnut price $45-. The most affordable products in the Leica line.. Also..new Leica watch..although big and fat (like M240) @ 41mm x 14mm wrist size..will double as a lenscap for your favorite Leica lenses...with screw in back..so if you don't want to wear the fatty watch every day..you can just observe the time on the front of your Leica M..if you don't forget to wind it that is.. Will not fit on SL lenses.. Only $10K! Edited June 15, 2018 by tsleica 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 15, 2018 Share #448 Posted June 15, 2018 Look on the bright side: those watches don't have LENR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 15, 2018 Share #449 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) The writing was on the wall that the CM would not materialise today … Jono could not have dropped a stronger hint that it was not coming https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/285080-leica-cm-ml-new-leica-mirrorless-announcement/?p=3528909 … similarly Macfilos' Mike Evans … but the optimists chose to believe Leica Rumours' fake news. Dr. K's 'in June 2018' prophecy was made in 2017 … much can happen over 10 months … and it's obvious from Jono's hints that he has not been testing anything that might resemble a CM of the type/design suggested by forum members. The contagious hysteria which built up (and which is still present) shows and proves there's a lot of Leica loyalty. In Great Yarmouth they'd likely say, 'Wet arse and no fish boy!'. A lot of fuss about nothing. dunk Edited June 15, 2018 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 15, 2018 Share #450 Posted June 15, 2018 Actually that C-Lux is rather attractive, and a reasonable mark-up from the Panasonic. Better than we have seen before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted June 15, 2018 Share #451 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) C-Lux does look nice. My dlux-5 was very nice and I still see it on fleabay for USD300-400 range. I think I paid 700 (or maybe 800, can't remember) for that new. Edited June 15, 2018 by jmahto 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted June 15, 2018 Share #452 Posted June 15, 2018 Actually that C-Lux is rather attractive, and a reasonable mark-up from the Panasonic. Better than we have seen before. I do agree, also the 5-axis stabilization is very welcome and sadly missing in the TL zooms... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted June 15, 2018 Share #453 Posted June 15, 2018 Much as I admire Leica cameras and lenses - even though they're a bit slow in developing e.g. full ranges of lenses for the L mount models - I cannot understand why they devote their relatively scarce resources to the design, production, and marketing of the 'L' watches … especially when first year production is likely to be only c.400 units. Design and prototype manufacture of a quality mechanical watch movement can cost c. €750000 and more … that's a not inconsiderable investment. dunk Just FYI most watch companies do not design their own movements. All they do is design the case and buy a movement from ETA or Valjoux and stuff it inside the case. A bit like how every OLED TV has an LG panel even if the badge in front says Sony. And a bit like how every laptop has a CPU from Intel or AMD, and most are manufactured in a few giant factories in China. The only thing that is different is the badge on the front and the price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted June 15, 2018 Share #454 Posted June 15, 2018 That is what many said after Mini M campaign. Except that there was no Leica campaign at all for a CM, only a wrong third party rumour that people latched onto. Now those speculations crushed and the audience forlorn. So eyes rolled and opportunities to poke fun. I hope I see some posts poking fun at the rumour mill instead. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgdinamo Posted June 15, 2018 Share #455 Posted June 15, 2018 I hope I see some posts poking fun at the rumour mill instead. Good luck with that when Leica has provided $15k manual watch as a perfect target for poking fun. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 15, 2018 Share #456 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Just FYI most watch companies do not design their own movements. All they do is design the case and buy a movement from ETA or Valjoux and stuff it inside the case. A bit like how every OLED TV has an LG panel even if the badge in front says Sony. And a bit like how every laptop has a CPU from Intel or AMD, and most are manufactured in a few giant factories in China. The only thing that is different is the badge on the front and the price. Th L1 and L2 movements (and the L3 in the pipeline) are made by Lehmann Präzision and are not ETA ébauche based movements; they are either new Lehmann designs or very extensively modified (by Lehmann) designs. As such, they would be very expensive to develop. And, just FYI, I've been an active member on the TZ UK watch forum since 2003 with over 12K posts … so am aware of costs of developing innovative watch movements ... be they totally new designs or extensively modified from existing. I'm also aware of which Swiss watch manufacturers use ETA movements and which do not … which is why I own more than a few non-ETA powered watches. dunk Edited June 16, 2018 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 16, 2018 Share #457 Posted June 16, 2018 I do agree, also the 5-axis stabilization is very welcome and sadly missing in the TL zooms... Indeed. I can understand the omission more or less, though. The Panasonic bodies with interchangeable lenses that support 5-axis stabilization (it requires both IBIS and OIS) are relatively large. The 4/3rds GX8, for instance is the same size (even a bit more bulky) as the APS-C CL. It would have been nice nevertheless, albeit not essential, to have OIS in the 55-135. 9it requires both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 16, 2018 Share #458 Posted June 16, 2018 Th L1 and L2 movements (and the L3 in the pipeline) are made by Lehmann Präzision and are not ETA ébauche based movements; they are either new Lehmann designs or very extensively modified (by Lehmann) designs. As such, they would be very expensive to develop. And, just FYI, I've been an active member on the TZ UK watch forum since 2003 with over 12K posts … so am aware of costs of developing innovative watch movements ... be they totally new designs or extensively modified from existing. I'm also aware of which Swiss watch manufacturers use ETA movements and which do not … which is why I own more than a few non-ETA powered watches. dunk I happen to think that it is not such a bad idea for Leica to branch out into watches. After all, they are a precision engineering company, and the mechanism of a mechanical shutter is not that much different from a watch, even if they have to buy the movement from a specialized company like almost everybody else. They have the sales channel through their Leica Boutiques, so why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcracer Posted June 16, 2018 Share #459 Posted June 16, 2018 I’m so disappointed in this announcement. I’m relatively new to Leica. The M10 is my first Leica and I wrongly expected quicker innovation in cameras and lenses than Leica is able to deliver. I don’t understand the watch move unless they keep volume limited to keep demand high or there is something so intriguing about the watch that it brings traffic into the Leica boutique stores. The good news with the lack of an announcement is that this makes the decision between the upcoming Fuji GFXR50 and the rumored CM easy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 16, 2018 Share #460 Posted June 16, 2018 I've met medical dr's who left jobs in NZ because they didn't like being addressed by their christian names and Surgeons in the UK who wear a bow ties because Mr doesn't cut it for them. Actually that's useful, stay away from the blokes in white coats wearing bow ties! Yep, particularly also as ties, bow ties are known as bacteria paradises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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