romanus53 Posted May 9, 2023 Share #301  Posted May 9, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Und der etwas realistschere Ansatz moderat abgeblendet um ca. 2,5 Blenden, zuerst wieder Kilfitt Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! und zum Vergleich das Leitz Unterschiede im Licht sind der Mischlichtsituation und der längeren Belichtungszeiten geschuldet. 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! und zum Vergleich das Leitz Unterschiede im Licht sind der Mischlichtsituation und der längeren Belichtungszeiten geschuldet. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4768002'>More sharing options...
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romanus53 Posted September 17, 2023 Share #302  Posted September 17, 2023 Schneider Xenar 2,8/50 , Exakta-Anschluß, bei f 5,6 an der M10 adaptiert Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Optik von 1936, unvergütet, keine weiteren Korrekturen; da die gewünschte Abbildungsleistung damals mit vier Linsen nicht bei f 2,8 erreichbar war, entschied man sich für eine fünflinsige Variante des Tessar-Typs, auch als Super-Xenar bekannt. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Optik von 1936, unvergütet, keine weiteren Korrekturen; da die gewünschte Abbildungsleistung damals mit vier Linsen nicht bei f 2,8 erreichbar war, entschied man sich für eine fünflinsige Variante des Tessar-Typs, auch als Super-Xenar bekannt. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4859458'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted November 11, 2023 Share #303  Posted November 11, 2023 Kleiner Zwischendurch-Test, aus gegebenem Anlaß, nur volle Öffnung Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben als Referenz 50er Apo, unten Elmar 2,8 von 1959 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben als Referenz 50er Apo, unten Elmar 2,8 von 1959 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4902610'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted November 11, 2023 Share #304  Posted November 11, 2023 zweimal Elmar 3,5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben von 1956, unten von 1929 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben von 1956, unten von 1929 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4902612'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted November 11, 2023 Share #305  Posted November 11, 2023 Zweimal Triplet Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben Corfield Lumar, unten Röschlein Pointar 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben Corfield Lumar, unten Röschlein Pointar ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4902614'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted November 11, 2023 Share #306  Posted November 11, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben Staeble Tetragon, unten Summicron 2. Version 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben Staeble Tetragon, unten Summicron 2. Version ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4902616'>More sharing options...
sandro Posted November 21, 2023 Share #307  Posted November 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Romanus, ich liebe diese Tests und ich vergleiche die Bilder immer wieder. Das alte Glas bleibt sehr interessant und stellt eigentlich auch eine ganz andere Art von Schärfe dar. Wenn man ältere Zeitschriften sieht sind die dortige Bilder doch wichtig anders als Photos von heute. Das macht deine Vergleichsbeispiele auch interessant. Lex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted December 21, 2023 Share #308  Posted December 21, 2023 moderne Objektive wie das hier https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/48991-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar/page/463/#comment-4955070 benutzte 100er Apo-Macro-Elmarit-R bieten schon bei offener Blende 2,8 volle Leistung, das 90er Macro-Kilar zeigt bei gleicher Blende noch allerhand Restfehler, die aber durchaus ihren Reiz haben. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! zur Vergleichbarkeit mit dem 100er habe ich den Ausschnitt etwas knapper gewählt  4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! zur Vergleichbarkeit mit dem 100er habe ich den Ausschnitt etwas knapper gewählt  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4955076'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #309  Posted December 26, 2023 (edited)  Vergleich von Summicron mit Summitar (vergütet (c) und unvergütet) - genau in dieser Reihenfolge. Die Blendenwerte sind f/2, f2.8 (3.2), f/4 (4.5) und f/5.6. Alle Bilder sind ungeschärft. Da die Crops nicht komprimiert wurden, sind sie sicherlich am aussagekräftigsten. Wie man anhand der unterschiedlichen Bildausschnitte sehen kann, wurde für das unvergütete Summitar kein Stativ benutzt. Licht gab's reichlich.😀 Im "Do it yourself" thread zeige ich noch vier Bilder vom polierten Summicron, das sich durchaus als Weichzeichner gebrauchen lässt.           Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 26, 2023 by mazdaro Falsche Reihenfolge Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961851'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #310  Posted December 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961852'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #311  Posted December 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961855'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #312  Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 2 x f/5.6 1 x 4.5    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 26, 2023 by mazdaro 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961857'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #313  Posted December 26, 2023 Die Crops (Mitte und Rand) bei f/2: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961865'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #314  Posted December 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961868'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #315  Posted December 26, 2023 Die Crops (Mitte und Rand) bei f/4 bzw. 4.5: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961872'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 26, 2023 Share #316  Posted December 26, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4961873'>More sharing options...
mazdaro Posted December 28, 2023 Share #317  Posted December 28, 2023 Irgendwelche Auffälligkeiten? Lt. Ken R. bildet das Summitar den Mittenbereich gestochen scharf ab, fällt aber im Randbereich ab. Das frühe Summicron (Collapsible) wäre in der Mitte vielleicht nicht ganz so scharf, aber wäre insgesamt besser korrigiert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted January 17, 2024 Share #318  Posted January 17, 2024 Aus gegebenem Anlaß (Wetter, Jahreszeit etc.) mal ein paar Vergleichsaufnahmen von Dreilinsern, die ich gerade s zur Hand hatte. Als Referenz 3,5/50 Elmar (letzte Version), jeweils offene Blende und 5,6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Elmar oben 3,5 unten 5,6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Elmar oben 3,5 unten 5,6 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4993801'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted January 17, 2024 Share #319  Posted January 17, 2024 Steinheil Auto-Cassaron2,8/50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben 2,8 unten 5,6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben 2,8 unten 5,6 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4993804'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted January 17, 2024 Share #320  Posted January 17, 2024 Röschlein Pointar 2,8/45 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben 2,8 unten 5,6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oben 2,8 unten 5,6 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/283998-kaviar-objektive-der-vergangenen-tage/?do=findComment&comment=4993805'>More sharing options...
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