pedaes Posted July 26, 2021 Share #101  Posted July 26, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Steven said: Time to turn this into an image thread ? OK, although there probably is one already somewhere back in time M10 and colours Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281581-50mm-28-elmar-m/?do=findComment&comment=4245427'>More sharing options...
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junix Posted July 31, 2021 Share #102  Posted July 31, 2021 For roughly the same price (11823, both should be in mint condition) ..  is it better to buy: Newer lens without box Older lens with box (approx. 5-6 years difference) @Steven Agree, I'll post photos if/when I get the lens.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 31, 2021 Share #103  Posted July 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, junix said: For roughly the same price (11823, both should be in mint condition) ..  is it better to buy: Newer lens without box Older lens with box (approx. 5-6 years difference) @Steven Agree, I'll post photos if/when I get the lens.. True for the silver model that had no 6-bit coding IINW but the latest black ones were coded and were then calibrated for digital. I don't see significant differences IQ wise TBH but those interested may prefer a coded lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 31, 2021 Share #104  Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, lct said:  the latest black ones were coded and were then calibrated for digital. I don't see significant differences IQ wise TBH but those interested may prefer a coded lens. Please. Can you expand on that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 31, 2021 Share #105  Posted July 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Alberti said: Please. Can you expand on that? I have no special info about the Elmar. Just a guess that Leica did the same as for other lenses made for film and sold for digital after the launch of the M8 in 2006. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 31, 2021 Share #106  Posted July 31, 2021 4 hours ago, lct said: latest black ones were coded There is nothing in the literature to indicate production of the chrome version stopped ahead of the black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 31, 2021 Share #107  Posted July 31, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 minute ago, pedaes said: There is nothing in the literature to indicate production of the chrome version stopped ahead of the black. No literature about 6-bit coded chrome lenses either. I have never seen such a lens so far but i may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo castillo Posted July 31, 2021 Share #108  Posted July 31, 2021 On 2/6/2018 at 6:44 AM, UliWer said:  Unfortunately the Elmar-M has the worst mechanics of all collapsible lenses Leica made. Unlike all others there is  no definite position to fix the extracted shaft. So it will happen that you can only see the aperture scale when you look from below, if you don't fix it in the right position. When I first had it, I thought mine was misadjusted by some imcompetent repairer - until I learned that all Elmar-Ms were like this. The mount also is not strong enough to prevent it getting wobbly - something which won't happen to other collapsible Leica lenses.  It was first introduced with the M6J in the mount it originally got when it was first built with M-bayonet. I havn't used such a version, though if this built equals the quality of the original M-Version it would be much preferable. I am also not sure whether the M6J-version has a straight-line mount - the lens head not turning around when you focus it. This would be a big progress compared to the original version.  So since Leica started to "reissue" some old lens-designs, a 50mm  Elmar (preferably 1:3.5 with modern glass) with the old but straight-line mount of the bayonet-Elmar would be more appealing than what they have "reissued" so far.   Thank you so much for this comment. By total coincidence yesterday I swapped a 21mm f4 voitglander for a collapsible 50mm f 2.8.  Whoever made the change showed me that it was freshly adjusted but the photos at f2.8 on both my M3 and my M9 had an obvious focus problem.  surely it is that I have not opened it correctly.  Any more precise instructions on how to confirm that it is properly displaced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 31, 2021 Share #109  Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, lct said: No literature about 6-bit coded chrome lenses either I know it is not what we are discussing, but I had my (chrome) lens coded by Will van Manen at the same time as a CLA. He machines (mills) the original back plate for the six bit wells. I see your black version has a '6 bit coded' sticker on the box . Edited July 31, 2021 by pedaes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 31, 2021 Share #110  Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rodrigo castillo said: Thank you so much for this comment. By total coincidence yesterday I swapped a 21mm f4 voitglander for a collapsible 50mm f 2.8.  Whoever made the change showed me that it was freshly adjusted but the photos at f2.8 on both my M3 and my M9 had an obvious focus problem.  surely it is that I have not opened it correctly.  Any more precise instructions on how to confirm that it is properly displaced? You need to ensure it is fully extended and locked by a slight clockwise turn. You also need to ensure it is locked in the correct place, with the aperture dot in line with the focus mark, as it can be locked in other positions (although this probably will not effect focus and is more cosmetic). Edited July 31, 2021 by pedaes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 31, 2021 Share #111 Â Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, pedaes said: I see your black version has a '6 bit coded' sticker on the box . Yes i have one of those in black version. Â I'm not aware of chrome lenses coded like that by Leica but again i may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo castillo Posted July 31, 2021 Share #112 Â Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, lct said: Yes i have one of those in black version. Â I'm not aware of chrome lenses coded like that by Leica but again i may be wrong. If there is a 6 bit code there is a model to set in a M9 manual selection too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 1, 2021 Share #113 Â Posted August 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Rodrigo castillo said: If there is a 6 bit code there is a model to set in a M9 manual selection too? M9 i don't know but M240 and digital CL yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo castillo Posted August 1, 2021 Share #114  Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, lct said: M9 i don't know but M240 and digital CL yes. Thank you. I have a CL too, so I will check in the CL and then compare with the list in my M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo castillo Posted August 1, 2021 Share #115  Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 6:31 AM, Steven said: Time to turn this into an image thread ? Great idea, now that I learned how too expand mine and have my images well focused… hahahaha… I will take some pictures …. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbear Posted August 5, 2021 Share #116  Posted August 5, 2021 On 4/24/2021 at 12:35 PM, M2Pete said: Great choice! Have the V2 Elmar and the Elmar-m. The former lives on my M2 while the latter is for my digital M-D. I really like the "look" of the photos I get on my M2, especially with B&W films. How are you enjoying it? Happy shooting! Hi. Any issues collapsing with the M-D? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbear Posted August 12, 2021 Share #117  Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Recently picked up a great copy of the Elmar-M and decided to put it up against the 50 Lux. I must say, not bad at all. I think I’m really going to enjoy this tiny lens, particularly for street photography on the M-D. This isn’t meant to be an apples-to-apples comparison, merely just acknowledgement of how good the Elmar is, at a very affordable price. 50 Elmar-M on M-D on top; 50 Lux on SL2-S on the bottom. . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 12, 2021 by goldenbear 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281581-50mm-28-elmar-m/?do=findComment&comment=4255372'>More sharing options...
markhout Posted October 10, 2021 Share #118  Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) I could not resist... M240 - Elmar-M 50mm 2.8  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 10, 2021 by markhout 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281581-50mm-28-elmar-m/?do=findComment&comment=4289742'>More sharing options...
cobbu2 Posted October 12, 2021 Share #119  Posted October 12, 2021 On 7/31/2021 at 4:51 PM, lct said: No literature about 6-bit coded chrome lenses either. I have never seen such a lens so far but i may be wrong. I actually have one, a very late (sn 3993XXX) coded silver Elmar-M that Leica-Wiki dates to the last batch in 2005. But I didn’t buy it new and I have no supporting documents so I can’t verify it as newly-coded by Leica. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbu2 Posted October 12, 2021 Share #120  Posted October 12, 2021 Thor’s Hammer at the Bryce Canyon National Park Amphitheater. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240, 50/2.8 Elmar-M 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M240, 50/2.8 Elmar-M ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281581-50mm-28-elmar-m/?do=findComment&comment=4290800'>More sharing options...
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