400mm Lens for SL?

[blacksinner]

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buy this adapter and a used canon 400mm f5.6. believe me. you'll thank me later. don't use filter. 

 

if you don't believe me, then you can always take a look on my 400mm f5.6 album, lots taken by SL

 

https://flic.kr/s/aHskRVtJPb

[frame-it]

can i use this novoflex adapter with the EF x2 extender mk 3 ? was looking at the https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732108-USA/Canon_4411B002_EF_300mm_f_2_8L_IS.html

 

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1265614-REG/novoflex_sl_eos_canon_ef_lens_to.html

 

buy this adapter and a used canon 400mm f5.6. believe me. you'll thank me later. don't use filter. 

 

if you don't believe me, then you can always take a look on my 400mm f5.6 album, lots taken by SL

 

https://flic.kr/s/aHskRVtJPb

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[blacksinner]

can i use this novoflex adapter with the EF x2 extender mk 3 ? was looking at the https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/732108-USA/Canon_4411B002_EF_300mm_f_2_8L_IS.html

 

yes you can but the autofocus will be terrible. even without the extender, the autofocus is not very reliable. i much prefer manual focus. 

[ramarren]

I had considered buying an SL so as to use the 90-280 as a 135-420 mm lens while still getting the full 24 Mpixel resolution ... But then I did some testing, setting the lens at 280 in FF and ~190 on the SL, with the camera set to APS-C mode (10 MPixel) ... same scene, same settings. I rendered and printed the results and compared them made into 13x19" prints, the largest size my P600 can make. (With the 10Mpixel images, I upscaled them to 1.4x the pixel dimensions on export to achieve a 20Mpixel print file: a standard technique I used with 5MPixel files from the Olympus E-1 to get a 10Mpixel print file.) 

 

I could not see any difference, certainly not enough difference to be worth spending $3000+ for another body or even $500-800 for a Nikon/Canon lens plus adapters, etc. 

 

Result: I didn't have to spend any money or learn a new camera, and I can take advantage of the SL90-280's superb quality and outstanding image stabilization, while getting all of the SL metering modes, etc. I use such a long lens so infrequently anyway that spending all that money to use it once in a blue moon is pretty ridiculous for me.

[sillbeers15]

I had considered buying an SL so as to use the 90-280 as a 135-420 mm lens while still getting the full 24 Mpixel resolution ... But then I did some testing, setting the lens at 280 in FF and ~190 on the SL, with the camera set to APS-C mode (10 MPixel) ... same scene, same settings. I rendered and printed the results and compared them made into 13x19" prints, the largest size my P600 can make. (With the 10Mpixel images, I upscaled them to 1.4x the pixel dimensions on export to achieve a 20Mpixel print file: a standard technique I used with 5MPixel files from the Olympus E-1 to get a 10Mpixel print file.)

 

I could not see any difference, certainly not enough difference to be worth spending $3000+ for another body or even $500-800 for a Nikon/Canon lens plus adapters, etc.

 

Result: I didn't have to spend any money or learn a new camera, and I can take advantage of the SL90-280's superb quality and outstanding image stabilization, while getting all of the SL metering modes, etc. I use such a long lens so infrequently anyway that spending all that money to use it once in a blue moon is pretty ridiculous for me.

Thanks! Great sharing of information. To me this kind of comparison information is valuable and not just comparing pixel count to determine differentiation like many concerns over the forum on asking senselessly for sensor pixel count increase.

[ramarren]

Of course, I meant to write "I had considered buying a CL ..." 

Damn typos!

 

You're welcome! 

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I had considered buying an SL so as to use the 90-280 as a 135-420 mm lens while still getting the full 24 Mpixel resolution ... But then I did some testing, setting the lens at 280 in FF and ~190 on the SL, with the camera set to APS-C mode (10 MPixel) ... same scene, same settings. I rendered and printed the results and compared them made into 13x19" prints, the largest size my P600 can make. (With the 10Mpixel images, I upscaled them to 1.4x the pixel dimensions on export to achieve a 20Mpixel print file: a standard technique I used with 5MPixel files from the Olympus E-1 to get a 10Mpixel print file.) 

 

I could not see any difference, certainly not enough difference to be worth spending $3000+ for another body or even $500-800 for a Nikon/Canon lens plus adapters, etc. 

 

Result: I didn't have to spend any money or learn a new camera, and I can take advantage of the SL90-280's superb quality and outstanding image stabilization, while getting all of the SL metering modes, etc. I use such a long lens so infrequently anyway that spending all that money to use it once in a blue moon is pretty ridiculous for me.

So when you use the 90-280 at 280 in APSC mode, you are getting an equivalent of about 420mm?  Does anyone know if the crop factor is 1.5 or 1.6?

[ramarren]

The Leica APS-C cameras all use a sensor that is about 16x24mm, for 1.5x crop. 

 

Only Canon APS-C cameras use the slightly smaller (15.1x22.7mm) format for 1.6x crop, at least that I'm aware of. 

[jkcampbell2]

Canon 400mm f5.6 is perfect. very sharp and reasonable price also. heres my album on 400mm some photo on SL https://flic.kr/s/aHskRVtJPb

 

Your cityscapes are outstanding! Thanks for sharing. jc

[blacksinner]

Your cityscapes are outstanding! Thanks for sharing. jc

 

Thank you. its one of my favourite. 

[jaapv]

I had considered buying an SL so as to use the 90-280 as a 135-420 mm lens while still getting the full 24 Mpixel resolution ... But then I did some testing, setting the lens at 280 in FF and ~190 on the SL, with the camera set to APS-C mode (10 MPixel) ... same scene, same settings. I rendered and printed the results and compared them made into 13x19" prints, the largest size my P600 can make. (With the 10Mpixel images, I upscaled them to 1.4x the pixel dimensions on export to achieve a 20Mpixel print file: a standard technique I used with 5MPixel files from the Olympus E-1 to get a 10Mpixel print file.) 

 

I could not see any difference, certainly not enough difference to be worth spending $3000+ for another body or even $500-800 for a Nikon/Canon lens plus adapters, etc. 

 

Result: I didn't have to spend any money or learn a new camera, and I can take advantage of the SL90-280's superb quality and outstanding image stabilization, while getting all of the SL metering modes, etc. I use such a long lens so infrequently anyway that spending all that money to use it once in a blue moon is pretty ridiculous for me.

Still, I think, get a CL body and use the 90-280 for 24 MP cropped images will give the better results, with the bonus of a rather nice second string to the SL. Although I think the CL might work its way into first place

[amoebahydra]

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[ramarren]

Still, I think, get a CL body and use the 90-280 for 24 MP cropped images will give the better results, with the bonus of a rather nice second string to the SL. Although I think the CL might work its way into first place

 

 

If I can't tell the difference, then what difference does it make? The CL body would be a nicely more compact thing to carry, but if I'm carrying the SL90-280 lens, it's not the reason I need a camera backpack to carry it...!

[amoebahydra]

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