colonel Posted January 18, 2018 Share #21 Posted January 18, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Summilux-M 50 mm Asph used to be my workhorse standard lens for a couple of years ... but I never used it anymore after I got my Apo-Summicron. The notion that the Apo-Summicron was 'harsh' or 'sterile' is absurd. Do not, repeat: DO NOT sell the Apo-Summicron-M 50 mm Asph! You will regret. Selling yours now and re-purchasing another later will be a costly move. Instead, complement it with something else if you absolutely feel like it. I'd suggest an old Summitar 5 cm 1:2 or Summarit 5 cm 1:1.5 ... or maybe even an uncoated pre-war Elmar 5 cm 1:3.5. For better lens speed (for use with film) I'd suggest to skip the Summilux altogether and immediately go all the way to a Noctilux-M 50 mm 1:1 or 1:0.95 Asph. that's a good point actually if you have the money, keep the APO and buy the noctilux never through of that before, but the more I think about it, its crazy but somehow makes sense to my bloodshot eyes 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Hi colonel, Take a look here Selling the 50 Apo to return to the 50 lux?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
geetee1972 Posted January 18, 2018 Share #22 Posted January 18, 2018 So anybody got examples of the Summicron Pre-apo vs the Summilux asph? All current 50mm Summicrons are non-APO and non-aspherical so your comparison is just between these two lenses. Fill your boots: https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=leica%2050mm%20summicron%20portrait https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=leica%2050mm%20summilux%20portrait The notion that the Apo-Summicron was 'harsh' or 'sterile' is absurd I agree but it's no more absurd than believing this lens is demonstrably any better than any other 50mm Leica lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted January 18, 2018 Share #23 Posted January 18, 2018 Keep the APO50. If you want character, depending on your budget and how strong you want the character to be, get the Noctilux 50/0.95 or Noctilux 50/1.1 or 50/1.4 v2 or Xenon 50/1.5 or Summitar 50/2 (sorted from more expensive to less expensive) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 18, 2018 Share #24 Posted January 18, 2018 When you buy a new camera or lens that significantly increases quality, sharpness, clarity, resolution etc. then you need to to up your own game and learn how to use them. IMO, the answer is never in post production. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 18, 2018 Share #25 Posted January 18, 2018 Keep your 50 APO and get a copy of the last pre-ASPH Noctilux f/1.0 - that would be my approach. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted January 18, 2018 Share #26 Posted January 18, 2018 I would keep the 50 mm AA and add a 50 mm older sumicron... they are plentiful and cheaper.. Don't give up the AA as you will eventually gravitate back... Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #27 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Keep the Apo and buy a Rigid v2 Summicron or/and even a 50 1.4 Nikkor SC LTM for close focussing ! Or try a mild black promist filter with the 50 Apo: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1159121-REG/tiffen_46bpm14_46mm_black_pro_mist_1_4.html I sold my BC 50 summilux as I found it too "modern", kept the BP 50 summilux v3 e46. A 50 Summarit 1.5 is a nice lens to have as well. The list goes on ... Edited January 18, 2018 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share #28 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Guys, I have a question about my 50 Apo... maybe there is something wrong with it. It swirls bokeh sort of like my 80 lux R did. It’s still razor sharp wide open even with the swirly backgrounds. Is this normal? I’m wondering if my copy is defective, which might explain why I don’t like it. Edited January 18, 2018 by Csacwp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 18, 2018 Share #29 Posted January 18, 2018 It’s just so harsh on female skin... It’s also not a very well sealed lens- at least mine gets lots of dust in it, more than all my other lenses combined! Buy some makeup for the wrinkly in your life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 18, 2018 Share #30 Posted January 18, 2018 Buy some makeup for the wrinkly in your life. Women will let you get away with that in Luxembourg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 18, 2018 Share #31 Posted January 18, 2018 Get a 75mm Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 18, 2018 Share #32 Posted January 18, 2018 Get a 75mm Summilux. More costly than makeup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 18, 2018 Share #33 Posted January 18, 2018 Women will let you get away with that in Luxembourg? You mean the language or the attempt to turn back the ravages of time? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share #34 Posted January 18, 2018 I have a 75 lux... actually, in terms of rendering, I like my 28 lux and 75 lux best. They are both dark and moody. My 90 Apo has a nice look as well. Funnily my 50 apo swirls the bokeh similar to the 75 lux. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 18, 2018 Share #35 Posted January 18, 2018 You mean the language or the attempt to turn back the ravages of time? Both seem potentially problematic. You just have kindly womenfolk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted January 18, 2018 Share #36 Posted January 18, 2018 Not quite sure what relevance the black chrome has to the decision. A weighty decison indeed . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 18, 2018 Share #37 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Surface blur as needed. Edit: sorry, I noticed that OP is shooting film. Edited January 18, 2018 by jmahto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 18, 2018 Share #38 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Both seem potentially problematic. You just have kindly womenfolk It varies. Some days I have to take pictures like this Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M typ 240, Apo-Summicron-M 1:2/50 ASPH Edited January 18, 2018 by Exodies 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M typ 240, Apo-Summicron-M 1:2/50 ASPH ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/280972-selling-the-50-apo-to-return-to-the-50-lux/?do=findComment&comment=3443303'>More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 19, 2018 Share #39 Posted January 19, 2018 Nice out of focus legs. Good work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-A-C Posted January 19, 2018 Share #40 Posted January 19, 2018 The APO is incredible...but you wouldn't be the first to do this. It's preference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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