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75mm ??? Voigtlander 75mm 1.8 or 2.5, Leica Summarit 2.4 or 2.5, etc.


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So I made the mistake of visiting a favourite dealer in London and walked out with my new shiny shiny, the Summarit 2.4

 

I looked at the Voigtlander, which is beautifully made and of course has 1.8 and a big price advantage, however what swung it for me was the sharpness, weight and size of the Summarit. I examined it closely and the construction looks excellent to me and typical Leica. The uniqueness is of course the rubber focus ring. Have to see how that lasts over time but as it’s tough synthetic and not the organic runners of old I am sure it would last long enough for arceologists to dig it up in 1000 years for exhibition at the V&A :)

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Exciting, enjoy your new 75!  It really is a useful focal length with the M. I've been curious to try the Summarit with all I've read (and not just on this thread :)

 

thanks. I am unexpectedly excited !

I am not a Summarit virgin

I used to have the 50mm f2.5. I thought this was a stonking lens and only replaced it as I wanted a wider aperture, nothing to do with the IQ which was almost flawless to my eyes

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[...] The uniqueness is of course the rubber focus ring. Have to see how that lasts over time but as it’s tough synthetic and not the organic runners of old I am sure it would last long enough for arceologists to dig it up in 1000 years for exhibition at the V&A :)

 

I don't know if it is synthetic on the 75/2.4 but the rubber grip of my 75/2.5 looks very close to those of my R lenses including expensive ones like the R 280/4.

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Thanks all

 

So I made the mistake of visiting a favourite dealer in London and walked out with my new shiny shiny, the Summarit 2.4

 

I looked at the Voigtlander, which is beautifully made and of course has 1.8 and a big price advantage, however what swung it for me was the sharpness, weight and size of the Summarit. I examined it closely and the construction looks excellent to me and typical Leica. The uniqueness is of course the rubber focus ring. Have to see how that lasts over time but as it’s tough synthetic and not the organic runners of old I am sure it would last long enough for arceologists to dig it up in 1000 years for exhibition at the V&A :)

 

Well, that swung me....just ordered one (f2.4 Summarit) from B&H.

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....and I can understand your excitement after getting the lens in my hands yesterday. Great size and weight, first-class build quality. Not being a filter user, the hood for the 75 Summarit is so much nicer/practical than the built-in hood on the 75 Summicron APO, and the weight in the Fogg B Minor bag, along with the M262, 35mm f1.4 FLE and 21mm Super Elmar seems perfect.

 

First glance at a few files, the lens looks perfectly aligned with the rangefinder too. Always nice to see.

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[...] the hood for the 75 Summarit is so much nicer/practical than the built-in hood on the 75 Summicron APO [...]

 

Matter of tastes. Having to screw and unscrew this hood is one of the few things preventing me to bring the 75/2.5 instead of the 75/2. We had not do do that in the past. We had clip-on hoods which were more handy to put on and remove from lenses. Also i much prefer the bayonet of my ZM and Sony hoods from this standpoint. Horses for courses i guess but those screw-in hoods are not an improvement to me. YMMV. 

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Well, you have to keep the first part of that sentence that you left off in mind.....that I'm not a filter user. The hood will stay on permanently, so any inconvenience in removing and/or mounting the hood is going to be a non-issue for me. Fits face down perfectly in it's slot of the B Minor bag with the front cap off and ready for use without having to do anything more than remove the rear cap and mount it.

 

Looking at the two lenses with the hoods deployed, the separate hood of the Summarit provides better protection as it extends quite a bit longer than the pull out and lock hood of the Summicron. 

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I agree Greg it's just that with the hood on it is not a compact lens anymore so all the efforts made by Leica to keep this fine lens as small as possible are somewhat ruined by this wrong (to me) idea to choose a screw-in instead of clip-on or bayonet hood. Same for the other Summarit lenses, at least the ones i own (35/2.5, 50/2.5, 75/2.5, 90/2.4) so i have to find other hood solutions. Here a 35/2.5 with film CL's hood and hood cap. FWIW.

 

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voightlander 75mmf1.8 for me

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The CV 75 / 2.5 for abt 350 EUR or the Summarit 2.5 for 750 EUR. Not that much difference -- the CV75 being discontinued probably retains it value pretty well and I don't see it often for sale. I shoot landscapes/cityscapes first and people/streets second with a 75 so the Leica makes good sense, but compact size of the CV does intrigue, as always. Things like weight and minimum focusing distances and short focus throw and things like that seem to be comparable.

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On 1/17/2018 at 11:26 AM, jip said:

I vouch for any of the Summarit 2.4 lenses. They are all stunning! 

 

The 2.5 I've never liked, they always felt flimsy and not up to Leica standards. The 2.4 series does feel more robust. 

I know I'm very late to this discussion, but my (used) Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 arrived today and I'm really thrilled with the build quality, feel and a few hasty test photos to check the sharpness and alignment. (I bought this in advance of an upcoming trip to study regional aspects of western French 12th century churches, where I'll be looking to grab a few details to supplement whole facade and elevation shots taken with a 28mm Elmarit). I respond to this post above because I had both the 50mm 2.5 Summarit and then its successor the 2.4 Summarit (replaced in an immature moment of GAS, albeit when there was a good deal on). In my case, the previous 2.5 version far excelled the newer 2.4 (which I rather chose on aesthetic grounds, more fool me) in terms of contrast and that fabled 'Leica pop,' which leads me to conclude that there is just too much sample variation in hand-assembled lenses (much as we appreciate their craft and history) to judge adequately the relative merits of each ... in so many cases. After years of working with Nikons and very precise shift lenses, beautiful instruments themselves, I have enjoyed the portability and tactility of several digital Leicas which have kept the pleasures of manual focusing and 'real' photography alive for me, but sample variation remains significant across their lenses. A fairly new 50 Lux I recently sent for recalibration (along with my M to be sure). 

I might have bought the 75mm 1.8 Voigt if recent experience with the Voigt 50mm f/1.1 hadn't led me to think that Cosina might be struggling to make larger elements with an acceptable sharpness. Cosina Zeiss lenses I have owned have been of limited max aperture (f/2 to f/2.8 versions) and impressive, in fact after selling my 90mm Elmarit (the last version) I bought a Zeiss 85mm f/4 for a NY trip and was amazed at the detail and contrast it gave to raw files.

 Mind you, the aesthetics of the new Voigt 75mm 1.5 make it pretty tempting ... 

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On 1/21/2018 at 9:08 AM, lct said:

I agree Greg it's just that with the hood on it is not a compact lens anymore so all the efforts made by Leica to keep this fine lens as small as possible are somewhat ruined by this wrong (to me) idea to choose a screw-in instead of clip-on or bayonet hood. Same for the other Summarit lenses, at least the ones i own (35/2.5, 50/2.5, 75/2.5, 90/2.4) so i have to find other hood solutions. Here a 35/2.5 with film CL's hood and hood cap. FWIW.

 

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I do the same thing wherever possible (not unfortunately for my 28 or 24 elmarits where vignetting appears) because in practical terms the rubber hood becomes a bouncy buffer against inevitable knocks while travelling - on people, church walls, boats - whatever.

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I recently bought a 75mm f2.5 Voigtlander, as an alternative to buying a 73mm Hektor that I have been looking at with a well known dealer.

It is a nice focal length, more than 50mm but not as long as 90mm. I have only used it on my 3g so far and guessed the framing as being half way between the 50mm and 90mm frames.

This picture was scanned from a sepia toned print on Ilford Art 300 paper. Pan F in Moersch Tanol, 125th at f5.6

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