imagereflex Posted December 3, 2017 Share #1 Posted December 3, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) After being on the waiting list for a very long time, my local Leica store finally notified me that they received my new M10. However, I was a little surprised when I set it up and found that the first image that I created with the camera has a frame number of 9958 (the actual file name is L1009958.dng). Is this normal for new cameras? P.S. -- I did not adjust the image numbering setting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adan Posted December 3, 2017 Share #2 Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Did you use an SD card previously used in another Leica? If so, when the M10 sees an L-numbered image already in the card, (whether formatting it, or simple starting to take additional shots) it will automatically reset its own numbering to a higher number than that one, to avoid any possibility of duplicate file numbers in your picture collection. Fresh from the factory, Leica digitals may sometimes have a low number of shots already recorded (from in-factory testing), and may start at L1000056 or some such, but not thousands. If you want to get back to zero (L1000000.dng) and avoid a repeat of this event - first format all your SD cards that have had previous images on them. Then, use the M10's menu tem to reset the numbers to L1000000. And then start using your clean, formatted cards. Edited December 3, 2017 by adan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagereflex Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted December 3, 2017 No. I put in a card I had used with a Nikon, and the let the M10 format the SD card. Then I tried shooting my first test frames and found the numbers where they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 3, 2017 Share #4 Posted December 3, 2017 Hmmm - well, there it is. The fix I mentioned should still work, but get back to us if it doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagereflex Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted December 3, 2017 I know that I can reset the number. I’m just worried that I paid for a new M10 and didn’t get a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 3, 2017 Share #6 Posted December 3, 2017 Inspect it - it's rather hard to put nearly 10000 pictures onto an M10 without some visible wear and tear. Check for dust in the step between the shutter dial and hot shoe - people always forget to clean in there. Check inside the lens mount opening (and the lens mount surface itself) for marks, grease or dust. Or ask your shop if they have an explanation. I suspect it is still just a data glitch of some kind (from experience with 6 previous digital Leicas) - but I can't guarantee that, obviously. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2man Posted December 3, 2017 Share #7 Posted December 3, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The number of shots is in the exif, in hex to make it fun. I haven't tried this on my M10, but I assume it's the same. https://captureintegration.com/determining-the-shot-count-on-a-leica-m/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted December 3, 2017 Share #8 Posted December 3, 2017 Can anyone tell me if I can change the frame numbering i.e. from L1xxx to something like LM? With my 2 DMRs, M9, S006 and now a M10, I'm getting too many duplicate frame numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagereflex Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted December 3, 2017 The number of shots is in the exif, in hex to make it fun. I haven't tried this on my M10, but I assume it's the same. https://captureintegration.com/determining-the-shot-count-on-a-leica-m/ Unfortunately, that method doesn't seem to work on the M10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted December 3, 2017 Share #10 Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) I had a similar number in my M10 and it was undoubtedly new to the inspection. At the Leica store I was assured that it can happen because the person doing the factory tests maybe uses the same card for different cameras and so the number is accumulated. They also gave me an explanation for the initial number 1 but now I can not remember what it was but I remember that it doesn’t mean that the images are 1009958, as in your case, but only 9958. If they wanted to sell a used camera for new they would surely know how to reset the counter... but I do not think they do it. The replaced cameras are used as a demo for Leica stores or other. Edited December 3, 2017 by Al_OOF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notman Posted December 4, 2017 Share #11 Posted December 4, 2017 I picked my M10 up yesterday and the number was 9978. Who cares? It is a dream camera. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted December 4, 2017 Share #12 Posted December 4, 2017 When I got mine, a store demo unit back in June, the file name was around 7500, but the camera was immaculate. Just reset it and enjoying the camera since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willemr Posted December 4, 2017 Share #13 Posted December 4, 2017 I remember that mine wasn't zero as well. It was somewhere in the 300 IIRC. Haven't checked the exif unique image sequence yet though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 4, 2017 Share #14 Posted December 4, 2017 The number of shots is in the exif, in hex to make it fun. I haven't tried this on my M10, but I assume it's the same. https://captureintegration.com/determining-the-shot-count-on-a-leica-m/ Are they using that system again? No I don't think so. My M10 had 0697 as the first frame, so this would be in line with the traditional Leica ballpark of 300-800 shutter counts for testing a new digital camera. Goodness knows where the OP's '9958' came from, unless it experienced a troubled start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted December 4, 2017 Share #15 Posted December 4, 2017 Just enjoy the camera... No reason for them to sell you a used one! Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 4, 2017 Share #16 Posted December 4, 2017 Are they using that system again? No I don't think so. My M10 had 0697 as the first frame, so this would be in line with the traditional Leica ballpark of 300-800 shutter counts for testing a new digital camera. Goodness knows where the OP's '9958' came from, unless it experienced a troubled start There is another post in this thread explaining it - a technician using one card for test purposes on multiple cameras. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Brigade Posted December 6, 2017 Share #17 Posted December 6, 2017 I know that I can reset the number. I’m just worried that I paid for a new M10 and didn’t get a new one. I just purchased a new M10, my second one, and I am 100% positive it is new and I was the first person to open the box. When I set up the M10, I observed that my file number was not set at 0. Odd, but I just reset it to 0 via the menu, and assume my SD card was the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppolla Posted June 27, 2018 Share #18 Posted June 27, 2018 the same just happened to me. Very first shot on M10 was 09957.... Very confused! It doesnt look like a used camera, but am verifying with the Leica store. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliturk Posted June 28, 2018 Share #19 Posted June 28, 2018 I got my M10 last Saturday and was surprised to see the shot numbers beginning at around 08200. However, as mentioned by someone in an earlier post, I had taken the card from my M240 and formatted in the M10. This may be the reason for the high frame number. Also, despite it being obviously untouched, the LCD plastic protector was still in tact and attached. So it couldn't have been ex-demo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted June 30, 2018 Share #20 Posted June 30, 2018 Mine was 7000-something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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