Steve Ricoh Posted August 24, 2017 Share #41 Posted August 24, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the info Nowhereman. The options you listed do sound like a bit of a faff so I'll probably keep looking for a BEOON, but they're somewhat like hen's teeth. One will turn up eventually, but eBay is my least preferred method of making a purchase since there are so many trying to offload rubbish at top price. Much prefer a trusted dealer who has a reputation to protect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 Hi Steve Ricoh, Take a look here Useful to shoot some slide film – BEOON+M10. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted August 24, 2017 Share #42 Posted August 24, 2017 Archive.org have the Leica Manual as an ePub. I just look on my hard drive and it is only 7.2MB Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted August 24, 2017 Share #43 Posted August 24, 2017 I've been using the 50 APO with much success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted August 25, 2017 Share #44 Posted August 25, 2017 Would be great to see some examples? br Philip I've been using the 50 APO with much success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2017 Share #45 Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) philipus - Just what I was thinking: that it would be good to see some examples because the degree of satisfaction depends what the photographer is after and how closely he or she looks. As stated earlier, I was happy with previous BEEON scans made with the DR Summicron because I was shooting Tri-X in a rough aesthetic for which corner performance didn't matter. But as soon as I scanned a transparency with the Focotar 2, I immediately saw that the corners were exactly like the slide — that made me rescan that frame with the DR Summicron, which showed the obviously superior corner performance of the Focotar 2. Now, I would expect the 50 APO to have better corner performance on the BEOON than the DR Summicron, but wonder whether it can be as good in this respect as an enlarging lens designed for a flat field? I've scanned some 300 frames of transparency film (Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Agfa Scala) with the BEOON + M10 + Focotar and intend to post some of the more interesting ones. Below are the first two. Do you think I should continue posting them here — it is the Film Forum and we're talking about scanning slides with the N+BEOON — or on the Photo Forum, where I fear that the viewership is de minimis? These two were shot with the M3 with the Summicron 50 in a neighborhood behind my hotel in Accra, in 1976. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 25, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275849-useful-to-shoot-some-slide-film-%E2%80%93-beoonm10/?do=findComment&comment=3344977'>More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 25, 2017 Share #46 Posted August 25, 2017 Personally I think they're good presented here, it's interesting to see the quality you're achieving and that fits with the thread you started. I'm beginning to dream about owning a BEOON, sad isn't it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2017 Share #47 Posted August 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Two more from Ghana in in 1976 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275849-useful-to-shoot-some-slide-film-%E2%80%93-beoonm10/?do=findComment&comment=3345501'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2017 Share #48 Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Here is a shot taken in 1965 at Kidepo National Park in Karamoja district in the northeastern corner of Uganda. I don't remember the road, a track really, being much higher than the ground, but I climbed on top of my VW beetle to take this picture. Leica IIIc | Summitar 50mm f/2 lens | f/5.6 | probably 1/250 sec | Kodachrome II (ISO 25) | Late afternoon Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 27, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275849-useful-to-shoot-some-slide-film-%E2%80%93-beoonm10/?do=findComment&comment=3345852'>More sharing options...
jpattison Posted August 27, 2017 Share #49 Posted August 27, 2017 Just posted a BEOON/SL image here... https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/276192-no-birds-in-this-tree/ John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted August 29, 2017 Share #50 Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks Mitch. Do you have full size (or at least 2000dpi) versions somewhere? They look perfectly fine (though the first one from Ghana has an odd colour cast) but to compare with a scanner it'd be necessary to see them in higher resolution. brPhilip philipus - Just what I was thinking: that it would be good to see some examples because the degree of satisfaction depends what the photographer is after and how closely he or she looks. As stated earlier, I was happy with previous BEEON scans made with the DR Summicron because I was shooting Tri-X in a rough aesthetic for which corner performance didn't matter. But as soon as I scanned a transparency with the Focotar 2, I immediately saw that the corners were exactly like the slide — that made me rescan that frame with the DR Summicron, which showed the obviously superior corner performance of the Focotar 2. Now, I would expect the 50 APO to have better corner performance on the BEOON than the DR Summicron, but wonder whether it can be as good in this respect as an enlarging lens designed for a flat field? I've scanned some 300 frames of transparency film (Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Agfa Scala) with the BEOON + M10 + Focotar and intend to post some of the more interesting ones. Below are the first two. Do you think I should continue posting them here — it is the Film Forum and we're talking about scanning slides with the N+BEOON — or on the Photo Forum, where I fear that the viewership is de minimis? These two were shot with the M3 with the Summicron 50 in a neighborhood behind my hotel in Accra, in 1976. Two more from Ghana in in 1976 Here is a shot taken in 1965 at Kidepo National Park in Karamoja district in the northeastern corner of Uganda. I don't remember the road, a track really, being much higher than the ground, but I climbed on top of my VW beetle to take this picture. Leica IIIc | Summitar 50mm f/2 lens | f/5.6 | probably 1/250 sec | Kodachrome II (ISO 25) | Late afternoon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 29, 2017 Share #51 Posted August 29, 2017 I am just sending off 5 rolls of Agfa Precisa CT 100 for E6 development. When I get back to the UK I will be scanning these with my BEOON, which is waiting there for me. For the BEOON, do those people already using it, think it is better to scan from film strips or mounted slides, as the lab I will be using offers both services. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted August 29, 2017 Share #52 Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks Mitch. Do you have full size (or at least 2000dpi) versions somewhere? They look perfectly fine (though the first one from Ghana has an odd colour cast) but to compare with a scanner it'd be necessary to see them in higher resolution. br Philip I'd be most interested in seeing the color 'scans' in their original resolution. Especially how highlights look. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 29, 2017 Share #53 Posted August 29, 2017 I'd be most interested in seeing the color 'scans' in their original resolution. Especially how highlights look. Sad to say, higlights from scan look digital . I fear that when looking images on computer screen always have that digital look. Just to be positive, here some scans with Focotar 4.5/50mm or Summar Repro lens 42mm + BEOON + M10 Bali in Kodachrome 64 | 1995 | Leica M6/or R6 | Summicron 50 or 35 or Elmarit-R 28mm | don't remember clearly sorry Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275849-useful-to-shoot-some-slide-film-%E2%80%93-beoonm10/?do=findComment&comment=3347268'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 29, 2017 Share #54 Posted August 29, 2017 Paris in a dull day, Beaubourg Center + Sacré-Coeur Basilic far away, some decades ago VOIR = SEE or SEEING Kodachrome 64 | Leica M6 | Super-Angulon 21mm or Zuiko 21mm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275849-useful-to-shoot-some-slide-film-%E2%80%93-beoonm10/?do=findComment&comment=3347272'>More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 29, 2017 Share #55 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Sad to say, higlights from scan look digital . I fear that when looking images on computer screen always have that digital look. Just to be positive, here some scans with Focotar 4.5/50mm or Summar Repro lens 42mm + BEOON + M10 Bali in Kodachrome 64 | 1995 | Leica M6/or R6 | Summicron 50 or 35 or Elmarit-R 28mm | don't remember clearly sorry 327 Bali boys.jpg I wondered about this when digitising film. Ideally the analogue characteristics should be visible in the scan, eg grain, softness, but sadly I would expect the digitisation to inflict its own personality on the outcome. B&W film for example has a nice slightly S shape transfer characteristic curve, whereas digital is a straight line, with concern especially about highlight management. Edited August 29, 2017 by Steve Ricoh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 29, 2017 Share #56 Posted August 29, 2017 All scans from film are compromises with learning curves long, very long or short depend on each people. My long "scan-story" ... Having thousands of slides to classify, I thought of scanning them "on-the-go", but things are not easy. Beginning with Coolscan V ED, the long scanning cycles showed me that was not the route to go. I started scanning with DSLR then M8/M9 but neither is correct. Now my project to scan them all would be possible with "automated M10 and friends" (M10 with intervallometer is a plus), timing is to be found. Some slides need 3 to 6 seconds exposure with x2 time to do nothing, and others only 1s . But that is fun again with the best quality/time of my former systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 29, 2017 Share #57 Posted August 29, 2017 That sums it up precisely, scanning must be a compromise. Even enlarging must have its own set of compromises. In both cases it's always at least one step away from the original negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug A Posted August 29, 2017 Share #58 Posted August 29, 2017 I am just sending off 5 rolls of Agfa Precisa CT 100 for E6 development. When I get back to the UK I will be scanning these with my BEOON, which is waiting there for me. For the BEOON, do those people already using it, think it is better to scan from film strips or mounted slides, as the lab I will be using offers both services. Wilson I've done both and digitizing from film strips is a lot faster. The film strip passes through a channel created by a cutout in the BEOON base and the surface of the light pad. It takes me about 30 seconds to digitize a strip of five negatives. For slides I lay the slide on a black paper mask with a 24x36mm cutout, put a piece of clear optically flat glass on top of the slide and wiggle the whole thing around on the light pad to center the image in the screen on the X-E20. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2017 Share #59 Posted August 29, 2017 I am just sending off 5 rolls of Agfa Precisa CT 100 for E6 development. When I get back to the UK I will be scanning these with my BEOON, which is waiting there for me. For the BEOON, do those people already using it, think it is better to scan from film strips or mounted slides, as the lab I will be using offers both services. Wilson My feeling is that a filmstrip would be better. Mounted slides are much more likely to move when placed on top of the 1:1 mask: I cut mine out of the mount and placed then under the mask. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2017 Share #60 Posted August 29, 2017 Thanks Mitch. Do you have full size (or at least 2000dpi) versions somewhere? They look perfectly fine (though the first one from Ghana has an odd colour cast) but to compare with a scanner it'd be necessary to see them in higher resolution. br Philip Philip - You're right: when I imported that Ghana image into Lightroom, I forgot to click on "Black and White" (in the Basic Panel). That left the image in RGB; looking at the slide on my LED light pad, I see that the Agfa Scala slide has yellowed a bit over the years. Since all my transparency scans are from slides shot from more than 30 years ago, I'll leave it for someone who has some more recent slide digitalizations to post full-sized files. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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