jdlaing Posted July 8, 2017 Share #41 Posted July 8, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Im not sure what you mean? I dont disable LV because I occasionally use it. I use the LV button to turn it on or off. Disabling LV is done in the menu and when it is selected the LV button no longer functions. regarding your 1, 2 3: LV does not require a visoflex, nor does it require advanced modes I didn't say it did.That's three ways it's activated. You didn't answer all my questions. After exiting the menu is the LCD screen on with a Live View image on it? And if not and you take a picture with Advanced Metering set, what icon shows when you review the image? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted July 8, 2017 Share #42 Posted July 8, 2017 [...] Choosing advanced metering in the menu will automatically open the shutter to enable the measurement. To enable live view one needs to push the live view (or EVF) button additionally [...] Not necessarily. The EVF can work then, proof that we are in LV mode actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 8, 2017 Share #43 Posted July 8, 2017 I didn't say it did. That's three ways it's activated. You didn't answer all my questions. After exiting the menu is the LCD screen on with a Live View image on it? And if not and you take a picture with Advanced Metering set, what icon shows? gotcha... Im quite familiar with the camera...it simply doesn't work on the M10. The manual even validates this. If LV is "enabled" in menu and the LV button is not selected then the camera functions exactly like an M9 and only works with classic metering. Furthermore you can select spot mode or Multi-field mode and despite this mode being selected the camera only uses the classic meter. There is no way to work around this with the current FW. to answer your question specifically: After exiting the menu is the LCD screen on with a Live View image on it? NO And if not and you take a picture with Advanced Metering set, what icon shows? Classic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 8, 2017 Share #44 Posted July 8, 2017 Now I got you. As,I said earlier it, in my view, is hobbled slightly. Hopefully it gets re-done with a firmware update before I finally buy one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 8, 2017 Share #45 Posted July 8, 2017 I fully understand that. Why would you disable Live View? Live View does not operate unless you: 1. Press the LV button. 2. Attach a Visoflex. 3. Switch to Advanced Metering. and now that I understand what you meant, the only way to enable LV on the M10 is to push the LV button. 2. Attach a visoflex does not enable LV 3. Switch to Advanced metering does not enable LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 8, 2017 Share #46 Posted July 8, 2017 Let me rephrase that. Before I buy one they need to correct that. That's a feature I want to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 8, 2017 Share #47 Posted July 8, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Let me rephrase that. Before I buy one they need to correct that. That's a feature I want to have. I don't get it. Why don't you just turn on LV? and if you don't want to see the screen on, select the EVF as primary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 8, 2017 Share #48 Posted July 8, 2017 I don't get it. Why don't you just turn on LV? and if you don't want to see the screen on, select the EVF as primary. I don't want to use, or have the LCD screen on, an EVF. I prefer the good old OVF rangefinder but still like the choice of metering methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 8, 2017 Share #49 Posted July 8, 2017 I don't want to use, or have the LCD screen on, an EVF. I prefer the good old OVF rangefinder but still like the choice of metering methods. if thats a requirement you will need to stick to the M240 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 8, 2017 Share #50 Posted July 8, 2017 if thats a requirement you will need to stick to the M240 I'll wait patiently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2017 Share #51 Posted July 8, 2017 if thats a requirement you will need to stick to the M240 That is certainly a minus for the M10. When I am shooting in low light circumstances I nearly always use spot metering, to avoid highlights pushing me into underexposure. Having the LCD behaving like a torch shining into my face spoils my night vision and will affect using the optical viewfinder negatively. Having the EVF on as a workaround would be better, but it is still a light. Maybe tape the ocular of the EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 8, 2017 Share #52 Posted July 8, 2017 That is certainly a minus for the M10. When I am shooting in low light circumstances I nearly always use spot metering, to avoid highlights pushing me into underexposure. Having the LCD behaving like a torch shining into my face spoils my night vision and will affect using the optical viewfinder negatively. Having the EVF on as a workaround would be better, but it is still a light. Maybe tape the ocular of the EVF? It seems you've just detected the use of leather half-cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 8, 2017 Share #53 Posted July 8, 2017 Are you sure the M10 screen cannot be switched off in LV mode folks? Such poor ergonomics are hard to believe IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2017 Share #54 Posted July 8, 2017 It seems you've just detected the use of leather half-cases. Which I strongly dislike... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2017 Share #55 Posted July 8, 2017 May a Luigi can make a nice leather hood for the EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted July 8, 2017 Share #56 Posted July 8, 2017 That is certainly a minus for the M10. When I am shooting in low light circumstances I nearly always use spot metering, to avoid highlights pushing me into underexposure. Having the LCD behaving like a torch shining into my face spoils my night vision and will affect using the optical viewfinder negatively. Having the EVF on as a workaround would be better, but it is still a light. Maybe tape the ocular of the EVF? I think I can clarify some questions, because I'm an owner and an user of an M 10: 1 - LV can be enable A) pushing "LV" or putting the visoflex on the camera and disabled only pushing "LV". Neither ON/OFF the camera nor getting out the Visoflex can be disabled the LV. 2 - If my memory dosen't fail???? with the 240 camera the spot only can be used in the center of the image (it is not neccesary to look for its situation in the frame), on the contrary the M 10 you have the option to move the cercle of the spot along all the surface of the frame then you absolutely need to localize and guide the spot in the screen (or in the viso) to take profit of its advantage 3- Of course you need to use the screen (or the viso) for using the alternative methods. Francisco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 8, 2017 Share #57 Posted July 8, 2017 @ Francisco, can you switch your screen off in LV mode? just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted July 8, 2017 Share #58 Posted July 8, 2017 @ Francisco, can you switch your screen off in LV mode? just curious. Only using the Menu. But in my opinión it doesn't matter with the long discusión you all have and the reasons I mentioned.. Francisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 8, 2017 Share #59 Posted July 8, 2017 OK thanks so the screen can be switched off in LV mode while the EVF can be used if i understand well. This would allow photogs to do spot metering or multi-field in RF mode w/o being bothered by the screen wouldn't it? Just curious as i have no experience with the M10 sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted July 8, 2017 Share #60 Posted July 8, 2017 In the MENU, LV and EVF can both be switched off. Just took time to do that. In this case, pushing LV button have no action on LCD screen with or without Visoflex and Visoflex view off also. Odd thing also, the control can be switched to EVF only, and this leaves the rear LCD always off, good choice for me. Then I want to know if one take out the Visoflex after that action "Control to EVF", and what would happen. Happily, when no Visoflex, the rear LCD is usable for MENU and INFO, even it's "disable" in previous set-up. LV button is off as before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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