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Hello Guy,

 

thanks for showing these great pictures. Is that really my home country ?

 

I travelled Arizona for at least four times, but now I realize I should go out and get to know my own country again and view at it with a different angle, let´s say with Mancuso´s angle of view.........

 

RGDS

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Looks like a P&S album of holiday snaps.......... nothing outstanding photographically, run of the mill stuff, can't see how a M8 gave a photographic edge at all.

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You say the same stuff to everyone. your fun to ignore believe me.

 

But i did shoot one just for you because your comments were expected.

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Shot these with a 28mm cron , was playing around with the blur effect. I jumped off the bus with maybe the wrong lens on but not too bad.

 

BTW were was it written i was comparing the M8 to anything . i could care less what is out there , this is the tool i use and will use until I feel differently about it or clients damand something different. This is about a trip PERIOD

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BTW were was it written i was comparing the M8 to anything . i could care less what is out there , this is the tool i use and will use until I feel differently about it or clients damand something different. This is about a trip PERIOD

 

Guy,

 

Don't let the peanut gallery put a damper on your trip. I'm enjoying your pics, as I'm sure most others are (I even kind of like the cow's *ss, notwithstanding it's intended purpose ... as well as for it's intended purpose).

 

Keep the photo-reportage coming.

 

Kent.

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Guy,

 

Despite the keen, sensitive and poetic criticisms of Imants, I've enjoyed looking at your photographs from this trip -- even considering their alleged pedestrian nature. ;-)

 

I must say that I appreciate Imants' work, although his self-imposed narrow world view can be very tedious.

 

Larry

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I could care less what he says guys so don't worry about that ,he goes on even after being warned many times about his posts from the mods. Not my job and my opinion of him will not be posted in public, i won't stoop to that level.

 

 

Thanks i do appreciate the nice comments for what they are, what is interesting in all of this is to see what the system can and can't handle out there. Been shooting for 14 days straight betwen NY and Germany and nice to get a better feel of the lenses and what there output is. Plus putting the M8's through lots of use and seeing how well it handles out there in different situations plus the stress on the bodies. they seem to be able to take the abuse. There are still the lingering firmware bugs i have been seeing all along and a pain sometimes. hopefully some updates will be forthcoming. Night

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Larry I appreciate a variety of work and regulary participate in the photo forum, narrow would be more akin to your view. There is nothing but some nice photos here. Go ahead and appreciate them if mediocrity is your zone of interest, no skin off my back:D

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Larry I appreciate a variety of work and regulary participate in the photo forum, narrow would be more akin to your view. There is nothing but some nice photos here. Go ahead and appreciate them if mediocrity is your zone of interest, no skin off my back:D

 

Imants,

 

I'm pleased that you at least acknowledged that Guy's photos are nice. There's no need to rain on someone else's parade or make smarly remarks about their work because you believe that you possess a higher level of aesthetic insight. Constructive remarks from you would probably be well received -- but maybe being rude is your thing.

 

Larry

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I allways defend fresh and spontaneous pictures which express the fun the photographer had while shooting. Criticizing such pictures is a sin. :p

Betw. - some nice compositions among the prictures from the trip, some are really sharp too.:)

Enjoy the holiday, Guy, good decision to show these pictures here. I like them!

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I allways defend fresh and spontaneous pictures which express the fun the photographer had while shooting. Criticizing such pictures is a sin. :p

Betw. - some nice compositions among the prictures from the trip, some are really sharp too.:)

Enjoy the holiday, Guy, good decision to show these pictures here. I like them!

To each his own, mate. All I'm going to say is that they're sharp and demonstrate the medium format look of the M8 that Sean Reid has documented quite well; but there is no substance to these pictures at all, although the mutual admirations society here does not seem to recognise this. All I'd like to do is to reproduce the following quote from Elliott Erwitt:

 

Quality doesn't mean deep blacks and whatever tonal range. That's not quality, that's a kind of quality. The pictures of Robert Frank might strike someone as being sloppy--the tone range isn't right and things like that--but they're far superior to the pictures of Ansel Adams with regard to quality, because the quality of Ansel Adams, if I may say so, is essentially the quality of a postcard. But the quality of Robert Frank is a quality that has something to do with what he's doing, what his mind is. It's not balancing out the sky to the sand and so forth. It's got to do with intention.

 

And yes, the only thing that I would add is that Imants is a fantastic photographer and original: just have a look at his web site.

 

--Mitch/Potomac, MD

Mitch Alland's slideshow on Flickr

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I would have thought that the appropriate place for holiday pics is in the photo section of this forum. I'm not sure that these are illustrating any particular points relevant to the M8 (though I haven't read through the enture thread so I might be wrong about this?).

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Oh man...chillax as the kids say these days ;)

 

Ian, yeah, it's in the wrong forum--strictly speaking. Yes, it's a holiday--but c'mon guys, it's a Leica holiday. And Guy never said he was selling these shots to a client--or that they were art, for heaven's sake.

 

So take the aesthetics right out of here, and put it back in the photo forum or the film forum, where we can talk about the "integrity" of a medium (geesh :))

 

Since Guy likes to use the M8, well, that's the connection. Since they're not taken to demonstrate "Leica photography" whatever the heck that is these days, they belong here.

 

It's called a "chronicle"--of a Leica trip. It's great to see what Guy and the others are getting up to, though I'd hoped for a few more car shots, actually :)

 

And personally, I always like to see Mad King Ludwig's crib. Open a beer, and cue up the Wagner, K? :)

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A few points I feel compelled to make ...

 

No great artist -- or even decent bloke -- would ever one-sidedly demean the work of another, because a) true artists are not that insecure, and B) they realize that art is purely subjective.

 

There is nothing more offensive than an "artist" who expresses the belief that anyone who doesn't understand his or her art is stupid. It becomes even worse when expressed publicly ad nauseum.

 

Every time a self-proclaimed artist bad-mouths another in a feeble, misguided attempt to boost his or her own credibility, his or her own work is devalued immeasurably.

 

Anyone who makes a statement implying that he or she is the Final Grand Arbiter of Photographic Substance, here or anywhere else, has a helluva lot to learn.

 

No names, of course. And strictly my own opinions.

 

Kent.

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.. a couple of images sure the point is made and accepted,........ Kent what are you rabbiting on about.? Then again doesn't matter........ Guy post more they love it all without reservations... I'm outa ere

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First off this is not the photo forum looking for someone to validate my work, i honestly could care less about that and i work for money and clients pure and simple . If it is not someones cup of tea than who really gives a rats ass. this was about the leica academy and what they do and a trip they sponsor. I don't pretend to sell these or make money off them or anything else. Another point i never and was will never comment on someones work unless i am directly asked. imants i never asked and you stuck your big mouth in where it does NOT belong as usual. This is NOT the photo forum where someone needs to validate what one does . this is about the M8 and the lenses and what it can do. This is a technical forum. Frankly Imant i think your work is just cheese and has no substance worth talking about but i never say that on this forum. You are constantly looking to irrate me and make me look bad. i have reported this several times to the mods and you have been warned in the past. if folks don't like them than change the channel. But this is not the correct place to tell someone that is not asking that they don't like there work. i am not asking and never will and if i did it would be in the Photo forum where it would be correct to comment on ones work.

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Every time a self-proclaimed artist bad-mouths another in a feeble, misguided attempt to boost his or her own credibility, his or her own work is devalued immeasurably.

 

 

 

Bingo and that is exactly what this is about

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Jamie this is the car David and i drove for the 3 days on the porche section of the trip . I seem to be missing a few shots but others will post when they have time on the cars. i did not shoot that much on the cars. Just some quickies

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