downstairs Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7001 Posted February 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, farnz said: Would you let us know camera and lens details please? Pete. M10, Summicron 35, Summicron 40 and to get closer, Elmarit-R 35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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downstairs Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7002 Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, jankap said: Good idea! The adapter gives room to a shim of around 2 mm. But don't there exist extension rings for the M bayonet? Yes, extension rings (adapters) do exist, as do close-up filters. But they get too close, like just the coffee cup full frame at maximum distance. I have both - unused Edited February 14, 2021 by downstairs Added 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
downstairs Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7003 Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, JMF said: Hello, I guess you're using a M10 with live view then you'll need to combine two adapters: this Novoflex M39 to M "Lei-M" adapter allows you to get closer with a Leica M lens, combined with a regular LTM to M adapter to use on a M camera: https://www.ebay.it/itm/Novoflex-lei-M-Adattatore-use-Leica-M-Mount-on-Leica-ltm-m39-l39/303723839346?hash=item46b759ff72:g:IagAAOSwL-tfhLQv I just tried it quickly evaluating distances by eye on a M10 with a 90mm M Summicron : Focussing on a 90mm M lens at a distance of 3m on the focus mark, the object placed at about 60cm from the camera sensor was sharp . At infinity with a 50mm M lens , the object was sharp when placed at approximately 40cm from the camera. Have fun, Jean-Marc. Oufro + 50 Summarit LTM on M8: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hommage to Rui Palha by JM__, on Flickr Jean-Marc, thanks. I’ll try to work that out for 35mm. I use shortish lenses on still-life in order to get some perspective into the shallow space. It keeps things within tangible distance for the observer. later: worked it out. Too thick for a 35. Thanks anyway! Christopher Edited February 14, 2021 by downstairs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7004 Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) Just now, downstairs said: Jean-Marc, thanks. I’ll try to work that out for 35mm. I use shortish lenses on still-life in order to get some perspective into the shallow space. It keeps things within tangible distance for the observer. Then I'd use a +1 diopter "filter" whilst focussing your 35mm Summicron lens at infinity and adjust focussing if needed. You can also unlock the lens from the mount and hand hold the lens away from the mount to test / judge of the width of the spacer you need to "built" 🙂 Edited February 14, 2021 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
downstairs Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7005 Posted February 14, 2021 I had a look elsewhere on the forum at the closeup attachment ELPRO Type 1 16541. It seems that even the n.1 is macro. Perhaps someone here has tried it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7006 Posted February 14, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Au Brusc by JM__, on Flickr 62mm f2.4 Elcan on M10M Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Au Brusc by JM__, on Flickr 62mm f2.4 Elcan on M10M ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141187'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted February 14, 2021 Share #7007 Posted February 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cuiabá, MT by JM__, on Flickr 62mm f2.4 Elcan on M10-P Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cuiabá, MT by JM__, on Flickr 62mm f2.4 Elcan on M10-P ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141190'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7008 Posted February 15, 2021 8 hours ago, farnz said: Hi, thank you for your enquiry and I wondered the same too. When I checked Leica's website (after I'd had to play 'hide and seek' and eventually found the 50/2.4 Summarit-M page) I pressed the "Shop Now" button and was informed that the 50/2.4 is no longer available. It's therefore not a current lens as defined in my opening post so it qualifies as 'older glass'. Just. The 75/2.5 Summarit-M was replaced by the 75/2.5 Summarit-M in 2014 so it clearly qualifies. Pete. Ahah yeah very modern older glass thanks for searching and clarifying though, much appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7009 Posted February 15, 2021 16 hours ago, johnkunstadter said: Splendid, Keith, not only the composition but also how you captured the light limning the sheeps' backs. Evokes Ravilious. Is this a site in Wilts.? Thanks In Wilts? Yes, it is the Neolithic Stone Circle at Avebury. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7010 Posted February 15, 2021 M10 + Voigtlander 28mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141428'>More sharing options...
mkur Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7011 Posted February 15, 2021 M10M + Summicron 50mm rigid Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141532'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7012 Posted February 15, 2021 M240 + 2012 MS-Optical Sonnetar 50/1.1, wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141920'>More sharing options...
Gerbs Posted February 15, 2021 Share #7013 Posted February 15, 2021 Macro test, f2.8, handheld, 1/60 sec M10M, 2/50mm Summitar (1950, 10-blade) with Kipon 10mm macro extender Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4141949'>More sharing options...
M.Kent Posted February 16, 2021 Share #7014 Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 7:53 AM, jankap said: What do you mean with: "The lens seems to be semi-sharp when you can use focus peeking"? The picture of the cat is excellently sharp. The sharpness area of the picture with the boy could have been somewhat nearer to the camera. Even with focus peeking some areas that should be "sharp" are not. My cat's nose and right eye are sharp but the left eye is not even though it is closer to the camera. Like people were saying, the lenses were not all created equal. I was getting much worse quality of "sharpness" on my M9-P and it might not be all the rangefinder's fault. I have to test it further to be sure. Just my first impressions of the lens. It got here a couple of weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted February 16, 2021 Share #7015 Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) vor 9 Stunden schrieb M.Kent: Even with focus peeking some areas that should be "sharp" are not. My cat's nose and right eye are sharp but the left eye is not even though it is closer to the camera. Like people were saying, the lenses were not all created equal. I was getting much worse quality of "sharpness" on my M9-P and it might not be all the rangefinder's fault. I have to test it further to be sure. Just my first impressions of the lens. It got here a couple of weeks ago. There has been an experimental camera, that took care of DOF, in post! The Lytro Illum is an interesting experiment. In a few years the software will be obsolete and that kills the camera. But I can recommend it for a test. On Ebay there sometimes are offers. I had a look at the cat picture again. The lens of a camera gives a picture with its maximally performance (sharpness) on a flat area. Whereby flat has to be taken literally. Not in the sense of plane, somewhat spherical is possible too. Nearer to and further from the lens the sharpness degrades gradually. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 16, 2021 by jankap Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4142224'>More sharing options...
johnkunstadter Posted February 16, 2021 Share #7016 Posted February 16, 2021 Apple bin, Old-Order Mennonite farm store, Lancaster County PA 2021. M2, Summitar (1940), HP5 @ 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4142378'>More sharing options...
Gerbs Posted February 16, 2021 Share #7017 Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 1:32 PM, downstairs said: I live by 35mm and 40mm lenses on M10. I need to get a bit closer than the standard 60cm - more or less like the shot below where focal-length equals distance. R lenses are perfect for this, but are so damn clunky that they ruin the pleasure of using an M. Perhaps the simplest way to go would be to shim a M39 screw-mount lens-adapter and use screw-mount lenses. Does any anyone have experience with shims? Is the adapter thread deep enough? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 30", .76 meters. Tricky with lens partly extended. The farthest approximate focus distance with the lens fully extended and focused at infinity (with the Kipon) is about 15", 0.38 m. M10, 2/50mm Summitar (1950, 10-blade) with Kipon 10mm macro extender 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbs Posted February 16, 2021 Share #7018 Posted February 16, 2021 A little closer, 24", .61 meters. M10, 2/50mm Summitar (1950, 10-blade) with Kipon 10mm macro extender Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4142758'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 17, 2021 Share #7019 Posted February 17, 2021 M240 + 2012 MS-Optical Sonnetar 50/1.1 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4142854'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 17, 2021 Share #7020 Posted February 17, 2021 Well, since this is now officially considered "old glass"... Both taken almost a decade ago in Stockholm. M9 + 2008 Summarit 75/2.5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268173-the-view-through-older-glass/?do=findComment&comment=4142860'>More sharing options...
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