Paul J Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1501 Posted January 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) 550 gram would be a digital M on a radical diet and would at least mean a top deck in aluminum à la M262 and/or body parts in other materials than those we are used to. Even the smaller (depth wise) M-A without battery, sensor and electronics does not get into the 550 range. M240 => 680 g - depth 42 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in brass M262 => 600 g - depth 42 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in aluminum M-A => 578 g - depth 38 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in brass The latest pictures that surfaced yesterday do actually look somewhat aluminium in colour and tone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joshua Lowe Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1502 Posted January 12, 2017 I'd say a hybrid viewfinder is unlikely given that it appears to have a connection for an EVF. We'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1503 Posted January 12, 2017 If the weight is correct I have the feeling the M10 is some kind of a digital CL equivalent rather than a mainstream model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP1 Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1504 Posted January 12, 2017 I'd say a hybrid viewfinder is unlikely given that it appears to have a connection for an EVF. We'll see. Depends on what meaning you assign to "hybrid". I guess an OVF incorporating an OLED panel for dynamically generated frame lines would qualify as "hybrid". Could be used to superimpose only one line set for a given FL with 6-bit lenses and could as well do parallax correction. As you say, we'll see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distagon Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1505 Posted January 12, 2017 I'd say a hybrid viewfinder is unlikely given that it appears to have a connection for an EVF. We'll see. Well, it appears to have a hot shoe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distagon Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1506 Posted January 12, 2017 The weight given is 550 gram... That would be an extraordinary weight reduction.The M3, which I consider an ideally sized light body, weighs 580 grams. It would make the M240 almost a quarter more heavy than the M10. If it wasn't for the fact that the leaker has the bodies, and has the feel of being part of the Leica marketing campaign, I wouldn't have believed it. Perhaps he misread or mistyped, and meant 580 gr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apertur Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1507 Posted January 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) 550 plus 80 for battery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1508 Posted January 12, 2017 Are we still allowed to complain about the weight if it is indeed 550gr? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey You Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1509 Posted January 12, 2017 Give me time. I'm working on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1510 Posted January 12, 2017 In case of M9 to M240, I agree that difference was significant if you cared for the extras. The high ISO is almost 2 stop better and LV/movie is totally new allowing legacy lens usage. Increase battery life is another bonus. My overlap of M9 and M240 was only a month. edit: With M240, I can say that it may work for me as a camera for life (depending on the robustness, so far so good in last 2.5 years). With M9 I could not say that because I would have to have other cameras to supplement other usage (macro, tele, etc). M240 can be one camera doing it all for ever. Live long M240 ! Although I quite agree I must confess that I quite enjoy my M9 which I do use next to my Monochrom1 for convenience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1511 Posted January 12, 2017 Depends on what meaning you assign to "hybrid". I guess an OVF incorporating an OLED panel for dynamically generated frame lines would qualify as "hybrid". Could be used to superimpose only one line set for a given FL with 6-bit lenses and could as well do parallax correction. As you say, we'll see... I think the frame line preview lever rules out the use of individual frame lines. A six position switch would be a bugger to control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1512 Posted January 12, 2017 On Leica Rumors they have many pictures of the M10 and it looks horrible..................wont be getting one of those You said the same about the "ugly" SL....and now you love it (at least as of today). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP1 Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1513 Posted January 12, 2017 I think the frame line preview lever rules out the use of individual frame lines. A six position switch would be a bugger to control. Preview could very well stay as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1514 Posted January 12, 2017 ...This camera - from what we have seen, might be very attractive to M9 users. My thought too... and indeed I tend to think that, the same way I switched from M8 to M240 ("jumping over" M9) , I could make the same for this M10 (unless there is some final surprise on VF side...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1515 Posted January 12, 2017 Having to take it off in order to be able to put the camera in your bag (or struggling to get the camera out of your bag if you didn't remove the EVF. I had the EVF on the T camera and it was a pain! In use the EVF was fine. It looks like you own the wrong camera bag for the T. I usually first buy a camera and then look which bag fits the camer and lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1516 Posted January 12, 2017 It looks like you own the wrong camera bag for the T. I usually first buy a camera and then look which bag fits the camer and lenses. But can you find one? The problem is that by adding the EVF as a permanent fixture to the top of an M, maybe have a grip as well, and at least from base to finder, its now close to a good size FF DSLR. But nothing else you're going to carry with it is at that scale. DSLR bags are designed for DSLR sized lenses. Mirrorless bags are designed to fit mirrorless sized bodies. So either the camera fit is tight or the glass tends to flop around. If you're looking a simple over the shoulder solution, there aren't a lot of choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1517 Posted January 12, 2017 Any additions like a external evf are design flaw, credit card fiend or a company just taking the easy way out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2017 Share #1518 Posted January 13, 2017 any addons like a external evf are design flaw, credit card fiends or a company just taking the easy way out Those add-ons have always been called Visoflex. They make an integral part or the M system since the fifties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 13, 2017 Share #1519 Posted January 13, 2017 EVF on a rangefinder is a crutch anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2017 Share #1520 Posted January 13, 2017 Depends on what meaning you assign to "hybrid". I guess an OVF incorporating an OLED panel for dynamically generated frame lines would qualify as "hybrid". Could be used to superimpose only one line set for a given FL with 6-bit lenses and could as well do parallax correction. [...] I would have expected a move like this together with an electronic rangefinder but i like this idea as well. Too soon to be true i suspect but i may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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