willeica Posted December 1, 2016 Share #401 Posted December 1, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you use an LTM to M adaptor with no indent, you can use Live View. Avoid using the infinity lock with this adaptor. This is not an issue with a wide- angle which does not need to be turned all of the way to be sharp to infinity. Leica should have produced the new lens as an LTM with an adaptor mount with six bit coding and an indent but they chose to produce in an M mount only. William Commenting on my own post, I have an adaptor with an indent (unusually with a 28mm and 50mm combination) which will work with this lens. I must have made one of the adjustments on my M240 mentioned by Luigi above and then I forgot about it. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Hi willeica, Take a look here Leica Summaron-28 -image thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
stevesurf Posted December 18, 2016 Share #402 Posted December 18, 2016 Is the new Leica Summaron 28 lens constructed of silver chromed brass or silver anodized aluminum like the new 28 and 35 Summicron lenses. We know the hood is machined out of brass (below), but I really can't find anything that cals out the lens structure. At 165g it's possible either way. I know it's really picky, especially with such a tiny lens, but at that price, I would hope it is all brass like the original. http://www.casanovafoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Summaron-M5.6_28mm_e2.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted December 18, 2016 Share #403 Posted December 18, 2016 If anyone is interested Leica Store Manchester have the old and new Summaron in if anyone wants to compare the two. www.robertpoolephotography.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted December 18, 2016 Share #404 Posted December 18, 2016 View from a bridge. Very soft light. Un-edited picture. M typ 240, Summaron-M 1:5.6/28, ISO 1600. Very happy with this lens, but the daylight hours are so short. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3169413'>More sharing options...
ianman Posted December 18, 2016 Share #405 Posted December 18, 2016 ... the daylight hours are so short. hopefully long enough for you to get more than one decent shot Send more !!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted December 18, 2016 Share #406 Posted December 18, 2016 Is the new Leica Summaron 28 lens constructed of silver chromed brass or silver anodized aluminum like the new 28 and 35 Summicron lenses. We know the hood is machined out of brass (below), but I really can't find anything that cals out the lens structure. At 165g it's possible either way. I know it's really picky, especially with such a tiny lens, but at that price, I would hope it is all brass like the original. http://www.casanovafoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Summaron-M5.6_28mm_e2.pdf From the weight I would say chromed brass. Think it is also stated on the Leica website page for the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted December 18, 2016 Share #407 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) M typ 240, Summaron-M 1:5.6/28 ISO 1600, noise reduction applied this time, otherwise un-edited. Shot through a window. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 18, 2016 by Exodies 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3169599'>More sharing options...
stevesurf Posted December 25, 2016 Share #408 Posted December 25, 2016 Erwin Puts has posted Part 1 of his 28mm review. He describes the changes to the new v old factually. http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/lenses/styled-54/ Thank you so much for posting this; I finally understand the differences between the Leica 28's! Erwin does this so well that it has inspired me - I'm definitely going to write an article on selection and applications of lensing for my industry (security/surveillance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted December 28, 2016 Share #409 Posted December 28, 2016 the new Summaron is very nice, but of limited use. The 28 Elmarit ASPH should allow the same things and can remain fixed on the car. What are you saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 28, 2016 Share #410 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Amazing, a couple of years ago and the same generation of Leica photographers were buying lenses based only on perfection, and rejecting many 'characterful' alternatives, and then Leica find a way to sell them one based on compromises and idiosyncrasies. Who'd have thought eh? One of those lenses that was too slow and 'couldn't possibly' be up to Leica standards was the Voigtlander 28mm f/3.5 Color Skopar, and of course every copy was badly made and cheap (yuk!). But the years go by and the 28mm Color Skopar continues to dodge the bullets, well it would if it was still made. Maybe Voigtlander over extended themselves making it, it was built in brass (now there's a coincidence), and optically it is good as a 28mm Summicron at like for like apertures, and maybe the size put people off because it is tiny, and tiny lenses didn't have street cred (well, until Leica recently decreed otherwise). So anybody who doesn't want to burn a hole in their pocket could do worse than to search for a 28mm Color Skopar, the only problem you'll find with it is that it's much rarer than a new Summaron so good luck, but you had your chance a long time ago. https://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlen.htm Edited December 28, 2016 by 250swb 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 28, 2016 Share #411 Posted December 28, 2016 I have no experience with the new 28/5.6 but it is a fine lens if one likes vignetting and/or flare i guess. i can't seem to see the point of using it when there are no light sources into or around the frame though, let alone if vignetting in adjusted in PP. Does it bring anything else than vignetting and flare to current Leica offers? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted December 28, 2016 Share #412 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) Amazing, a couple of years ago and the same generation of Leica photographers were buying lenses based only on perfection, and rejecting many 'characterful' alternatives, ... Not all of us are/were buying "lenses based only on perfection". I have been searching for the CV for a while. Edited December 28, 2016 by ianman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 28, 2016 Share #413 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) i can't seem to see the point of using it when there are no light sources into or around the frame though, let alone if vignetting in adjusted in PP. Does it bring anything else than vignetting and flare to current Leica offers? Just curious. I have tried it out (only briefly) a couple of times recently using film (which, other than my iPhone, is all I use now) and find it quite interesting. I don't find it vignettes appreciably and it handles a strong light source with good grace. I also noticed that it is impressively sharp, maybe not sharper overall than my Summicron but sharp in a different way. What I don't like (much) about the lens is how it feels on the camera – it is fiddly and the focus throw seems long and awkward. A couple of test snaps. Edited December 28, 2016 by wattsy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 28, 2016 Share #414 Posted December 28, 2016 So rather a film lens would you say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 28, 2016 Share #415 Posted December 28, 2016 ... One of those lenses that was too slow and 'couldn't possibly' be up to Leica standards was the Voigtlander 28mm f/3.5 Color Skopar, and of course every copy was badly made and cheap (yuk!). But the years go by and the 28mm Color Skopar continues to dodge the bullets, well it would if it was still made. ... My favorite 28mm lens. I bought it (and the Color Skopar 50mm f/2.5) when I returned to Leica M with the M4-2 in 2011. Both are brilliant on film. The CS28 has some color shifting problems on the M9, M-P240, and SL. Funny, but they're not so bad on the M-D262 as long as I'm not shooting open expanses of white walls or blue skies ... I rarely do. CornerFix cleans it up anyway if that's important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted December 28, 2016 Share #416 Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) I took my old F:5.6 Summaron (previously cla'd by the fabulous S. Krauter) and did some comparison shooting with it and an Elmarit M ASPH; both were with an M9. All shots were under virtual identical conditions on a dull (lighting wise) day; and were shot were from a tripod. I shot the F:5.6 Summaron as a 21mm 11134 and the Elmarit as itself; probably not the best set-up for the Summaron. Considering its age, the old 5.6 Summaron did quite well but was no match for the Elmarit by any reasonable criteria. Even in the central area fine detail was lacking at all magnifications; on the edges detail was grossly inferior and the the corners were predictably weaker. One area where the tiny Summaron really shined was on focusing while on the tripod; the infinity lock knob was useful and the stupid focusing collar on the Summaron remains a complete pain. The first photo is the old lens, the second the Elmarit; the focusing distance was about five feet. If you wish high resolution examples, send me a personal. Regards, Ron Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 28, 2016 by Ronazle Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3174618'>More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 1, 2017 Share #417 Posted January 1, 2017 So rather a film lens would you say? It's certainly impressive on film and doesn't seem to have the vignetting I've seen on some of the digital samples I've seen posted but I have no direct experience of using it with digital. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted January 4, 2017 Share #418 Posted January 4, 2017 Part 2 of Erwin Puts review of the 28mm's is published. http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/lenses/styled-55/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted January 6, 2017 Share #419 Posted January 6, 2017 We just published a video review of the 28mm Summaron with a little companion article to go along with it. Check it out. Shooting the “New” Leica 28mm Summaron-M in Little Havana 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 7, 2017 Share #420 Posted January 7, 2017 Is there a lens cap which will fit on the hooded Summaron-M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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