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"5 new mirrorless lenses" maybe doesn't mean SL lenses - it could be smaller CM-L lenses, finally another 50mm lens with L mount?

 

 

Could very well be.

 

It will be interesting to see what the rumored full framme L-mount body will look like: A less expensive, slower, smaller companion to the SL? Implying that the SL2 will be a major upgrade in the technology?

 

And what about S008?

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Maybe we will see L-Mount AF lenses with an aperture ring similar to the PanaLeica lenses?

This would be a step into the direction of 'fusing' M and SL.

[IkarusJohn]

Interesting thought

[sillbeers15]

Maybe we will see L-Mount AF lenses with an aperture ring similar to the PanaLeica lenses?

This would be a step into the direction of 'fusing' M and SL.

 

 

I think unlikely. moving back to the mechanical aperture ring design on lens means remotely changing aperture through smart phone will not be possible anymore. 

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I think unlikely. moving back to the mechanical aperture ring design on lens means remotely changing aperture through smart phone will not be possible anymore. 

Sure? On the Panasonic this is possible if the aperture ring is set to 'A'.

[frame-it]

if Panasonic-Leica could be smaller faster aperture lenses....

 

if not with Panasonic, im sure they will be underpowered f2.8-f5.6

 

 

"5 new mirrorless lenses" maybe doesn't mean SL lenses - it could be smaller CM-L lenses, finally another 50mm lens with L mount?

 

 

 

[sillbeers15]

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Sure? On the Panasonic this is possible if the aperture ring is set to 'A'.

 

I'm not talking about 'A' on the aperture ring. On 'A' you let the camera decide. I'm talking about remote controlly changing aperture on SL while camera set on 'A" or 'M'.

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I'm not talking about 'A' on the aperture ring. On 'A' you let the camera decide. I'm talking about remote controlly changing aperture on SL while camera set on 'A" or 'M'.

If the G9 is in 'M'-mode and I set the aperture ring to 'A' I can change the the aperture on the body or the remote app.

[sillbeers15]

If the G9 is in 'M'-mode and I set the aperture ring to 'A' I can change the the aperture on the body or the remote app.

 

Why have the traditional aperture ring and yet still set the aperture on the camera body?

I love my M10 for it's traditional dial position and i also enjoy my SL's DSLR type of dials.

Combining both, I'm not so certain if it can be any good.

Knowing Leica SL minimalist design philosophy, I seriously doubt that is aligned.

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Leica SL minimalist design philosophy, I seriously doubt that is aligned.

 

I'm not talking about SL but about L-Mount lenses. BTW: Setting the aperture via the app is already possible with the Q (and here there is even no need to set the aperture ring to 'A'). So it's already part of the philosophy.

Of course my thoughts are pure speculation. 

[sillbeers15]

I'm not talking about SL but about L-Mount lenses. BTW: Setting the aperture via the app is already possible with the Q (and here there is even no need to set the aperture ring to 'A'). So it's already part of the philosophy.

Of course my thoughts are pure speculation.

I do not own the Q. I seriously doubt what you say can be true. Say on the lens, the aperture is set to f5.6. You mean one can use the wireless remote to set it to f8.0 with the dial still showing f5.6? Or the aperture dial will move physical to f8.0? I seriously doubt it.

What I mean by minimalist philosophy means not placing a aperture dial on lens and yet allow setting aperture on camera body (sounds like the typical jap camera maker style of cramming as many dials into camera as possible). I would consider a confusion to use. For my SL & M10 currently I am very comfortable using both interchangeably.

[LD_50]

With electronic aperture control, there is no technical barrier to controlling aperture from the lens or body or both.

 

Multiple cameras already allow this. Not being aware of it doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

[saxo]

Maybe we will see L-Mount AF lenses with an aperture ring similar to the PanaLeica lenses?

This would be a step into the direction of 'fusing' M and SL.

 

 

 

Weather sealing would be difficult, if the aperture ring works mechanical. The current SL lenses avoid this by magnetic/electronic coupling.

 

I work with M as well as SL lenses. I can't see any advantage of an additional aperture ring.

 

But you may be right, just for design reasons. As we all know, everything is possible...

 

Martin

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I wish they would just make the new Primes & 16-35 widely available already. They’re announcing watches and limited edition Zagato M10’s and they can’t even fulfill products that they announced months ago. One wonders where their priorities are

Edited June 16, 2018 by trickness

[LD_50]

Announcing watches and an M10 probably will help produce the revenue needed to support a larger lens ecosystem.

 

It’s not as if there are watches or special edition M bodies being built on the SL assembly lines.

[trickness]

Announcing watches and an M10 probably will help produce the revenue needed to support a larger lens ecosystem.

 

It’s not as if there are watches or special edition M bodies being built on the SL assembly lines.

 

No but they're a small company with limited resources. In another thread someone got a brand new 90SL that was dead out of the box and Leica didn't have the stock to replace it, he needed to send it in for repair. Do the core job first, don't announce lenses for the SL system and then 1 year later still no retailers have them in stock.  Shilling the luxury crap (watches now?) will always be part of their game, but as someone who invested in the SL system this is a drag. Just get the lenses on the shelf.

Edited June 16, 2018 by trickness

[LD_50]

As I said, it’s likely the “luxury crap” that helps fund the core system.

 

You mentioned they are a small company with limited resources. Limited editions likely draw VERY few resources and provide great margins. The watches are not going to be designed or built by the SL team but they will likely help fund it.

[lx1713]

It's possible that certain departments have more production time available compared to other departments. Looks like the machining guys are tasked with churning out the mechanical wonders while the other departments sweat over other tasks.

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[6bit]

I can only speculate, but I bet that it's very close to 1:1. Based on the user participation I've read, there are only a few folks even on these 'enthusiast' forums who have bought just the SL body and not the body with the 24-90 mm lens.

 

I was almost one of them but decided to go for the SL24-90 after I'd placed the order so that I would have one fully dedicated lens with which to exercise all of the SL features. I have not regretted that decision.

I have a SL on the way. I plan on using M lenses with it (specifically my 50/.95). I have not ordered any SL native lenses. The only native SL lens I could possibly see me ordering would be the 35 lux. It boggles my mind that lens isn’t available yet.

Edited July 22, 2018 by 6bit

[LD_50]

I have a SL on the way. I plan on using M lenses with it (specifically my 50/.95). I have not ordered any SL native lenses. The only native SL lens I could possibly see me ordering would be the 35 lux. It boggles my mind that lens isn’t available yet.

It should not boggle your mind given they will produce what they believe will sell. You just stated you don’t intend to buy native lenses and instead will use M lenses.

 

That will contribute to a slower roll-out of native lenses.