Leica SL or Hasselblad X1D

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Thats what he told me mate...............I guess we will have to wait and see

 

After first dissing GPS altogether and ignoring it, I find it is bloody useful and built in on the SL. I would not say it is a dire necessity but in certain situations where I am not certain of where I am like taking pictures off a cruise boat between one place and another, GPS is a good thing to have. All the better built in. However it does eat battery power, so an external one akin to the Nikon unit (that has very frugal power requirement) would be a preety good alternative to built-in.

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[wellfleet]

After first dissing GPS altogether and ignoring it, I find it is bloody useful and built in on the SL. I would not say it is a dire necessity but in certain situations where I am not certain of where I am like taking pictures off a cruise boat between one place and another, GPS is a good thing to have. All the better built in. However it does eat battery power, so an external one akin to the Nikon unit (that has very frugal power requirement) would be a preety good alternative to built-in.

 

 

FYI, according to Kevin Raber @ LuLa, he states, " I can see now GPS data in the meta data of the file." 

Edited December 30, 2016 by wellfleet

[Guest]

FYI, according to Kevin Raber @ LuLa, he states, " I can see now GPS data in the meta data of the file." 

 

Yes I am aware of that but Neil is suggesting that the GPS will not be built-in, yet in the LuLa Hands On report so far it is as you say. We will have to wait and see what our pre-orders come with!

 

My self I hope it is built in, as was the case on the 2 cameras I demoed, the original and the newer all black version.

[Jeff S]

FYI, according to Kevin Raber @ LuLa, he states, " I can see now GPS data in the meta data of the file." 

 

And he wrote that he's going to try and get clarification from Hasselblad (presumably in time for his upcoming review, having used the camera in Antarctica).

 

He also wrote that he thinks that some of the Fuji GFX features may overshadow the X1D.  

 

Jeff

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And he wrote that he's going to try and get clarification from Hasselblad (presumably in time for his upcoming review, having used the camera in Antarctica).

 

He also wrote that he thinks that some of the Fuji GFX features may overshadow the X1D.  

 

Jeff

 

Yes I am looking forward to that review!

[ramarren]

GPS is mostly irrelevant to my photography but it's amusing to look through with my SL files now and then. I am not sure why anyone finds it necessary. "I was on a boat at sea off the coast of {whereever} or on the way to {somewhere}" always seemed perfectly adequate position information ... unless you were doing forensics or science research. ?? 

[Peter H]

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And he wrote that he's going to try and get clarification from Hasselblad (presumably in time for his upcoming review, having used the camera in Antarctica).

 

He also wrote that he thinks that some of the Fuji GFX features may overshadow the X1D.  

 

Jeff

 

 

It's all getting very interesting.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

When I get home I will see if thefiles I shot in Inverness show the GPS data.........

[wellfleet]

Yes I am looking forward to that review!

 

 

+1

[LD_50]

GPS is mostly irrelevant to my photography but it's amusing to look through with my SL files now and then. I am not sure why anyone finds it necessary. "I was on a boat at sea off the coast of {whereever} or on the way to {somewhere}" always seemed perfectly adequate position information ... unless you were doing forensics or science research. ??

You could say the same for just about all metadata. I appreciate GPS as a way to auto tag location instead of doing it manually later. This is another means to categorize without having to add keywords for later review or project work. I move around a lot so this is very desirable for me.

 

The fact this is included in the default camera/photo apps on iOS (the most popular camera in the world) indicates it's a desired feature.

[wellfleet]

When I get home I will see if thefiles I shot in Inverness show the GPS data.........

 

 

Thanks.

 

I emailed Hasselblad service asking for an answer to this question.

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"I was on a boat at sea off the coast of {whereever} or on the way to {somewhere}" always seemed perfectly adequate position information ... unless you were doing forensics or science research. ??

 

I was on a river cruise passing various interesting looking places. By switching on GPS on that part of the trip. I could get at least a good idea where we were at that moment. Then looking on the internet I could find in other photos from others and then to Wiki, and name some of the places.

 

The purpose being of course to name some of those places in a Photo book that I wanted to print. So no forensics or whatever.......

[ramarren]

You could say the same for just about all metadata. I appreciate GPS as a way to auto tag location instead of doing it manually later. This is another means to categorize without having to add keywords for later review or project work. I move around a lot so this is very desirable for me.

The fact this is included in the default camera/photo apps on iOS (the most popular camera in the world) indicates it's a desired feature.

I can actually understand it in the domain of smartphone photographs since smartphones are mobile devices and the kind of position information they provide seems perfect for the kind of photos one makes with them, in general. But when I pull out a "real" camera, I do it by studied intent and know where I am, what I'm trying to make a photograph of, and why: I generally don't really need position information very much in that situation... no matter how much I'm moving about, there's always time to note where and when I am to the level of the information I need.

 

EXIF is generally useful only when debugging a problem, as an analytic tool.. it's of no real use other than "miscellaneous entertaining factoids" otherwise. What do I care what deconvolve matrix version the camera used? It's not relevant to anything I do with my image processing or client sales. Date and time of exposure are the only truly universally useful bits of EXIF data, with location (city, state, country) appended via IPTC, and maybe captured people names if you're selling into stock photo or commercial markets so you can easily provide release information.

 

Sorry for thinking out loud.

[ramarren]

I was on a river cruise passing various interesting looking places. By switching on GPS on that part of the trip. I could get at least a good idea where we were at that moment. Then looking on the internet I could find in other photos from others and then to Wiki, and name some of the places.

 

The purpose being of course to name some of those places in a Photo book that I wanted to print. So no forensics or whatever.......

I generally have a map of the route in that situation and use it to inform what I want to photograph, rather than using the photographs to inform me of where I'd been afterwards. Different approach entirely. I rarely just wander about with a camera snapping photos ...!

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

When I get home I will see if thefiles I shot in Inverness show the GPS data.........

 

No GPS Data for the photos that I took with the X1D

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Edited December 30, 2016 by Neil D

[scott kirkpatrick]

GPS startup time may be an issue.  How long were you outside and had the camera been outside already that day?  With the SL, I sometimes notice that the first shot or two outdoors after a period indoor or powered off will lack GPS metadata.  With my very good but older generation Garmin hiker unit it can take almost a minute to startup, especially if I turn it off in the US and then switch it on in Israel.

 

scott

[wellfleet]

I just heard back from Ming Thein re: GPS. His response was, "I believe the GPS is now an external module." 

 

Hopefully Hasselblad will get back to me to sooner than later.     

[SrMi]

I generally have a map of the route in that situation and use it to inform what I want to photograph, rather than using the photographs to inform me of where I'd been afterwards. Different approach entirely. I rarely just wander about with a camera snapping photos ...!

For cameras that do not have GPS built-in, I collect GPS locations with my phone and import them to Lightroom. That approach is error-prone, I much prefer the built-in GPS. In Lightroom I also use keywords to describe the locations, but that is also an error-prone approach. In Lightroom's Map module it is possible to locate all images shot at a certain location if GPS coordinates are available. Anything that makes it simpler for me to manage thousands of images is a positive.

 

I have images I shot years ago that I would like to reshoot, but do not know exactly where I took them because I did not record GPS location.

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[SrMi]

No GPS Data for the photos that I took with the X1D

Just took a picture of my office with Leica SL: Lightroom shows no GPS location neither. As mentioned, camera needs time to "connect" to the GPS satellites once started and GPS location is typically not possible indoors (e.g., in camera stores).

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Just took a picture of my office with Leica SL: Lightroom shows no GPS location neither. As mentioned, camera needs time to "connect" to the GPS satellites once started and GPS location is typically not possible indoors (e.g., in camera stores).

 

All the other pictures that I took outside also dont have the GPS data.............