Leica SL or Hasselblad X1D

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

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I just emailed B&H to see if they will have an update on when the XID will be shipping................anyone here hazard a guess?

[sillbeers15]

You go to go for the Hasselblad. The SL having a APC sensor is just not in that MF leiuge

 

 

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It is what it is for Medium format to stay as Studio camera and d not have it mixed up with the versatile SL.

Even if the X1D develops a 90-280mm SL lens, it will break your arm and your bank, less to say its usefulness outdoors (need a tripod always).

For outdoor shooting, I can only see the compact X1D limited use as a landscape & street photography due to the bulky lens sizes of MF telephotos.

In out door photography, I therefore see the sensor size limitation for MF due to the comparable lens sizes, even thought mirrorless concept can make the MF camera as compact as a 36mm x 24mm FF sensor camera.

[lct]

Fuji lenses will be more compact thanks to the built-in shutter of the Fuji body hopefully. The latter looks significantly thicker than the X1D though.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

It is what it is for Medium format to stay as Studio camera and d not have it mixed up with the versatile SL.

Even if the X1D develops a 90-280mm SL lens, it will break your arm and your bank, less to say its usefulness outdoors (need a tripod always).

For outdoor shooting, I can only see the compact X1D limited use as a landscape & street photography due to the bulky lens sizes of MF telephotos.

In out door photography, I therefore see the sensor size limitation for MF due to the comparable lens sizes, even thought mirrorless concept can make the MF camera as compact as a 36mm x 24mm FF sensor camera.

Why would you want a 90/280mm lens for street and landscape photography.........................

[jrp]

The 90-280mm is surprisingly useful for cityscapes, particularly if you want to shoot across the river.

[Jeff S]

Why would you want a 90/280mm lens for street and landscape photography.........................

 

Lots of folks use tele lenses for landscape.  Are you questioning the zoom aspect, or the focal length range?

 

Jeff

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

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Lots of folks use tele lenses for landscape.  Are you questioning the zoom aspect, or the focal length range?

 

Jeff

 

Me too.......... but not for street and generally landscape is not at the longer focal length.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

End of the month

 

 

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[sillbeers15]

Why would you want a 90/280mm lens for street and landscape photography.........................

I mean that a MF sensor camera is not suited outdoors for application beyond landscape, portraits and street photography due to the required bulk for a telephoto lens to support the larger sensor size.

[Guest]

The 90-280mm is surprisingly useful for cityscapes, particularly if you want to shoot across the river.

 

Depending on the river width of course.  I found on the Rhine 135mm was just fine.

[Peter H]

I've rarely wanted anything longer than 90mm and when I've owned longer lenses they hardly get any use at all.

 

I can enjoy the photos other people make with long lenses but I get very little satisfaction or pleasure from using them. Perhaps that's another reason why I feel the X1D ( or the new Fuji) would complement my M so much better than an SL would. I'd evaluate an SL as a potential replacement for an M, but not as a partner for it.

Edited September 23, 2016 by Peter H

[dancook]

Hasselblad X1D 50c vs Fujifilm GFX 50S

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/hasselblad-x1d-50c-vs-fujifilm-gfx-50s

Edited September 23, 2016 by dancook

[jrp]

Depending on the river width of course.  I found on the Rhine 135mm was just fine.

 

And the height of what is on the other side.  Sure.  I used to live with 90/135mm max on the M and Sony, but am surprised by how often a longer focal length is handy.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

And the height of what is on the other side.  Sure.  I used to live with 90/135mm max on the M and Sony, but am surprised by how often a longer focal length is handy.

I'm enjoying shooting my HB 180mm on my S007 for portraiture and my HB 250mm for head jobs

Of course I also like to use them on there native 503CW

Edited September 23, 2016 by Neil D

[gpwhite]

End of the month

 

Remember the M8?!!  I was sooo excited to use my M lenses again on a native body, as the RD-1 sure had its limits.

 

Well, it seems Hasselblad has nailed the product for 2016. Now they just need to make the camera to catch up with the tsunami of buzzy PR they caused.

 

I rented an X1D, and LensRentals kindly notifies me regularly that they have no idea when it will show. Perhaps Blad has deployed Leica's system?

[Jeff S]

Fuji has basically done the same thing, using Photokina to (finally) announce and hype the GFX, even though it's a long way from finalization and delivery.

 

Lensrentals is supposed to let me know if they also plan to carry the GFX.  I'd like to rent and compare both systems.

 

Jeff

[thighslapper]

Hasselblad X1D 50c vs Fujifilm GFX 50S

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/hasselblad-x1d-50c-vs-fujifilm-gfx-50s

 mmmmm...... yet more cameras that vastly exceed my capabilities to use them to their full potential .....

 

what I have already is over-kill considering I can 'only' print to A2 .... and even then half the time I don't know what to do with the prints ......

[Guest]

 mmmmm...... yet more cameras that vastly exceed my capabilities to use them to their full potential .....

 

what I have already is over-kill considering I can 'only' print to A2 .... and even then half the time I don't know what to do with the prints ......

 

I used to print all the time and big ... filled a closet with enough paper to withstand a decade of printing ... and also prints ... which the significant other had no interest in displaying.

 

One day the Epson 4900 developed a terminal case of clogged heads ... nothing would fix them.

 

Now I send most of my prints to Shutterfly ... 4x6 and an occasional 5x7.

 

Looking at most of the available pictures from the X1D ... highly resolved bland pics ... not much character or distinction.

 

So I realized that 23 x 16 will not be that far above the 17 x 11 inch at 360 that the 24 mp Leica sensors deliver.

 

Cancelled my preorder on the X1D and am moving back to a M246 and probably a M-D.

 

As a travel cam my Leica Q is pretty hard to beat.

 

Bob

[Jeff S]

Try a problem-free P800, which comes with a relatively inexpensive roll feed like the 4900, only with a small desktop footprint, and with a wonderful new ink set with deeper blacks, and you'll want to print again.  

 

Even with the larger print capability, I'll print sizes from under 4x5 inches to 16x20+ on single sheets....always depending on what suits the picture.  Bigger isn't always better.

 

ImagePrint 10 makes printing a breeze, without need to deal with any printer settings whatsoever.....just input the paper and print size, and IP does the rest, from superb profiles for virtually any paper, to all necessary settings, and always in soft-proof mode.

 

Apart from sales, friends and family always appreciate framed prints, and my wall-mounted SpeedMat cutter makes mat cutting a breeze, ready for framing using pre-cut Nielsen metal frames and various UV glass that I buy in quantity to create economies.

 

The whole process from camera to framed print is why I do this stuff.  Don't need much in the way of camera gear, but just so happens I'm looking for a complementary system to the M, and the X1D, GFX and SL each have something to offer.  The decision likely won't be based on IQ.....all I think will be more than sufficient....but rather on other handling, ergonomic and build/operational features.

 

Jeff

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[Guest]

Try a problem-free P800, which comes with a relatively inexpensive roll feed like the 4900, only with a small desktop footprint, and with a wonderful new ink set with deeper blacks, and you'll want to print again.  

 

Even with the larger print capability, I'll print sizes from under 4x5 inches to 16x20+ on single sheets....always depending on what suits the picture.  Bigger isn't always better.

 

ImagePrint 10 makes printing a breeze, without need to deal with any printer settings whatsoever.....just input the paper and print size, and IP does the rest, from superb profiles for virtually any paper, to all necessary settings, and always in soft-proof mode.

 

Apart from sales, friends and family always appreciate framed prints, and my wall-mounted SpeedMat cutter makes mat cutting a breeze, ready for framing using pre-cut Nielsen metal frames and various UV glass that I buy in quantity to create economies.

 

The whole process from camera to framed print is why I do this stuff.  Don't need much in the way of camera gear, but just so happens I'm looking for a complementary system to the M, and the X1D, GFX and SL each have something to offer.  The decision likely won't be based on IQ.....all I think will be more than sufficient....but rather on other handling, ergonomic and build/operational features.

 

Jeff

 

Thanks Jeff 

 

I have been an IP customer for 12 years ... just talked about the P800 but will probably continue to do PDF and Blurb books ... not at this point wanting to exhibit. Lucky if I can find 10 days a year to devote to photography.

 

You may want to look seriously at the X1D and GFX lens imaging ... after 4 years with a Leica S ... now gone due to all the Leica mis adventures ... I am not convinced that the IQ with respect to uniqueness will be the same.

 

Bob