earleygallery Posted January 28, 2016 Share #21 Posted January 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Let's paws for thought a moment. Leica are just pandering to their richest customers who can easily bear the cost of a special edition like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Hi earleygallery, Take a look here Panda Edition Leica M-P set. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pgk Posted January 28, 2016 Share #22 Posted January 28, 2016 I'm bamboozled by this one. As a special edition its not a black and white as to whom its aimed at, ( but I suspect that its simply a rather more expensive version of this: http://www.royalcrownderby.co.uk/baby-panda.html (described as 'Paperweights - timeless charm'). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 28, 2016 Share #23 Posted January 28, 2016 I am hurt! So I suppose you won't be buying the new Pico version. You open the bottom plate and spring loaded snakes and jumping jacks pop out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted January 28, 2016 Share #24 Posted January 28, 2016 Leica are by no means stupid. They have been doing this for years and there is clearly a market for this stuff even if it sits on a collectors shelf. Iit helps sell already made M240 parts that are painted and sold at a very high price before the next model comes out. This all gets fed into company profits which also benefits future R&D and helps ensure financial viability of a company that we all want to continue to be viable. That's smart business even if I personally think such limited editions look somewhat tacky - there's no accounting for the punters taste but that's different to corporate stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 28, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 28, 2016 I have zero interest in this, but I find the criticism odd. This looks like a special order - the Leica Stores in China (it doesn't say where), Hong Kong and Macau (both actually in China) are the only vendors. How does this differ from the special orders previously offered by the Leica Store in the Ginza and the Leica Shop in Vienna? All have offered special editions of current cameras in the past, as have the LHSA (if I recall correctly). I'm sure if you organised 50 of your mates, Leica would happily make a run of cameras to your design ... for a price. They'd be stupid if they didn't. I see the Miami Leica Store is selling a 2012 "White Edition" M9-P with silver Noctilux (sold only in Japan) for USD50,000. Yep, stupid. So stupid, Leica is laughing all the way to the bank, and I guess 49 other White Edition owners are also smiling - the original price was USD30,000, and the camera the Leica Store is selling has been used (albeit only 360 exposures). Hmm, very stupid ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 28, 2016 Share #26 Posted January 28, 2016 When you say selling, you really mean 'has sitting on their shelves hoping some mug will come along willing to pay what they're asking' which is rather different to selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 28, 2016 Share #27 Posted January 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) When you say selling, you really mean 'has sitting on their shelves hoping some mug will come along willing to pay what they're asking' which is rather different to selling. Very true - maybe we should have a current market price section of the Wiki where everyone discloses the actual prices they pay for their gear, and a true market price is established by averaging the most recent prices, complete with trends ... No? I thought not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 28, 2016 Share #28 Posted January 28, 2016 Why would Leica neglect the collector maket? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted January 29, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 29, 2016 Why would Leica neglect the collector maket? Can you tell me who collects this stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 29, 2016 Yes collectors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 29, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 29, 2016 Can you tell me who collects this stuff? I could perhaps make up a whole lot of names and pretend I knew them all (which would be quite fun). Google Leica Collectors, and you'll get a reasonably clear idea. The Telegraph published an article in 2008, explaining why people collect Leica: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/2787640/Investments-why-we-Leica-vintage-cameras.html But then, I guess that wasn't really your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2016 Share #32 Posted January 29, 2016 Funny how collectors are treated on the LUF. The more they give to Leica the less Leica fans like them. Curious no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 29, 2016 Share #33 Posted January 29, 2016 Funny how collectors are treated on the LUF. The more they give to Leica the less Leica fans like them. Curious no? Not curious. It's jealousy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2016 Share #34 Posted January 29, 2016 Haaa! a breath of fresh air suddenly, thank you Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 29, 2016 Share #35 Posted January 29, 2016 Thank YOU. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256106-panda-edition-leica-m-p-set/?do=findComment&comment=2978382'>More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 29, 2016 Share #36 Posted January 29, 2016 PS: Nice boke eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted January 29, 2016 Share #38 Posted January 29, 2016 PPS: Here's how I feel about that stuff. If some company or person has something to sell I look at it and decide I want it or I don't want it. My choice. I would be pretty petty and condescing if I crucified someone else from wanting or buying it. That would be their business not mine. If you collect burnt atch sticks or cameras that is up to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted January 29, 2016 Share #39 Posted January 29, 2016 I could perhaps make up a whole lot of names and pretend I knew them all (which would be quite fun). Google Leica Collectors, and you'll get a reasonably clear idea. The Telegraph published an article in 2008, explaining why people collect Leica: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/2787640/Investments-why-we-Leica-vintage-cameras.html But then, I guess that wasn't really your point. OK I did a search ......What I get is the group of people that collect Leica, the old models .....That I understand. that's history like stamps or coins Its the weird new, ridiculously priced boutique Leicas. Like this Panda or the Gold plated M or Lenny Kravitz or Hermes? I know I'm not the market but this is kinda like collecting Hummel Cottages? Or does Leica see it more like collecting Fraberge eggs or Judith Leiber purses ? That's the market I don't understand. Because you are collecting old technology......not old enough to be antiques or an object that has a a place in history. Ten years from now why would you want a 240 with a Panda on it or a Lenny Kravitz ? So you know I am very open as to what constitutes Art ...........I'm open to everything but these are like fashion statement fads. They also appear to be marketed not to photographers. Either way I think I'm done thinking about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2016 Share #40 Posted January 29, 2016 Forget my rant sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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