jakontil Posted December 2, 2015 Share #61 Posted December 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) apart from the typ262, is there any other, including older model that made of milled aluminium in the M series? i perceived M series, so T and Q as well as SL not inclusive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 Hi jakontil, Take a look here Buying a Leica M ( 262) reasons. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
revolvo Posted December 2, 2015 Share #62 Posted December 2, 2015 I'm taking the plunge, moving from my 8 to the 262. I never liked the idea of filming capability on an M and I didn't like the concept of liveview either. These reduced features suit me, as well as the handy WB button, and so I ordered the 262 within an hour of learning of its release. I have yet to try it, test it, hold it or even see it but it's precisely what I had hoped for so I paid my deposit and I'll pick it up later this month. Now to see if there really is a difference, to my eyes, when I move to CMOS. I might just keep my 8 along with my trusty 6 for a while yet though, just in case.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothlander Posted December 2, 2015 Share #63 Posted December 2, 2015 Does anyone know when the 262 will be available in the USA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted December 2, 2015 Share #64 Posted December 2, 2015 Does anyone know when the 262 will be available in the USA? My dealer's site say the 262 starts shipping NLT tomorrow (Dec 3). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMBSGV Posted December 3, 2015 Share #65 Posted December 3, 2015 Camera West in Walnut Creek phoned this afternoon to tell me the one I ordered came in today. As someone who has long delayed making the transition from my M2 and M7 to digital, I had finally made the decision to get a used digtal M or the Sony A7Rii as a Christmas present. The M262 was announced soon afterwards with almost the exact specs I wanted (unlike the other digital Ms and the Sony). I expect to be very happy with my M262. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted December 3, 2015 Share #66 Posted December 3, 2015 I would expect this to be a good seller because problems have been overcome from previous models, price is decent, and it is in keeping with Leica M tradition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 3, 2015 Share #67 Posted December 3, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Tried the red lines, detested them. .... I use the line colors to distinguish between my user profiles. I have one profile without video and LV (disables the M and LV button) and the other one enables it. I can simply tell which profile I am in by looking at the line color (I prefer not to be in movie/LV mode for long). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted December 4, 2015 Share #68 Posted December 4, 2015 Popflash shows the 262 as being in stock if anyone's looking for one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted December 6, 2015 Share #69 Posted December 6, 2015 Red Dot Cameras in London have them in stock. Not sure how many, but I played with one yesterday and loved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambdacalculus Posted December 12, 2015 Share #70 Posted December 12, 2015 Hello all, and thanks in advance for your time. I've got a Fuji x-pro 1 and I'm seriously considering to move to Leica. I have 2 questions: - Has someone here done the same move and is the IQ really better? - The 262 seems a really nice camera to have, I like the back-to-basics approach, but why didn't they put a sensor with better low-light performances? I heard the Q is 2 stops better in high iso. 6400 iso seems a bit restrictive. Antoine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted December 12, 2015 Share #71 Posted December 12, 2015 Mine is here. So far I have not had much time to play with it but the battery is charged, the card in place, the Summilux is on board and it is waiting for some action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted December 13, 2015 Share #72 Posted December 13, 2015 Hello all, and thanks in advance for your time. I've got a Fuji x-pro 1 and I'm seriously considering to move to Leica. I have 2 questions: - Has someone here done the same move and is the IQ really better? - The 262 seems a really nice camera to have, I like the back-to-basics approach, but why didn't they put a sensor with better low-light performances? I heard the Q is 2 stops better in high iso. 6400 iso seems a bit restrictive. Antoine Yea the IQ is much better The ISO is not much better then the X-pro1 The operation is totally different Play before buy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 13, 2015 Share #73 Posted December 13, 2015 Yea the IQ is much better The ISO is not much better then the X-pro1 The operation is totally different Play before buy This is true, and good advice. (And before dropping multi-thousands of you preferred currency, it may also be worth noting that there are already Fuji cameras that offer better IQ than the X Pro 1, and that Fuji have said the XPro2 will be announced on 15th Jan.) I believe the differences between cameras in terms of IQ are diminishing to the point where they have become trivial in many cases. Superb lenses are also widely available and usable on multiple bodies. It's all about handling and other personal priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted December 13, 2015 Share #74 Posted December 13, 2015 ... I believe the differences between cameras in terms of IQ are diminishing to the point where they have become trivial in many cases. Superb lenses are also widely available and usable on multiple bodies. It's all about handling and other personal priorities. I fully agree, at least for my kind of photography robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Orme Posted December 13, 2015 Share #75 Posted December 13, 2015 Having just come to an M-240 from the Fuji X-Pro1, I totally agree with what has been said above. But in my short experience of using three different M lenses I previously adapted for use on my XP1 (50mm, 90mm & 21mm), I would say that the IQ of all of them is noticeably improved on my M-240. The 90 is an older Leica Tele-Elmarit f2.8 but the 50 is a new Zeiss Planar f2, & I am seeing more improvement with the Zeiss. But this is not based on any side-by-side tests or pixel peeping, & more just about how they look in post processing & the changes needed to improve them. But I really made the move to get back to using a true range finder camera, & that is where I think a big part of the decision lies. If you have been using the Fuji AF lenses, which are very good in my opinion, then there will be a bjig change in manual focusing an M camera. But in that area as well, I enjoy using these three lenses much more on my M-240 than I did manually focusing them on the XP1 using focus peaking. And I think my results are better as well. However YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted April 2, 2016 Share #76 Posted April 2, 2016 I think I'll probably get this camera. However without being a party pooper I would have liked live view, simply as it's the best way to test new/old lenses for being set with the rangefinder correctly, and of course periodic checks of the internal rangefinder generally I thought the same about the M240s live view and rangefinder cross-testing, but only if the rangefinder is correctly calibrated. A surprisingly big "if", it turns out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 2, 2016 Share #77 Posted April 2, 2016 I can't understand this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted April 2, 2016 Share #78 Posted April 2, 2016 Cases where LV and the rangefinder disagree. Despite re-calibration last summer, my M240 has just returned to Wetzlar for this reason. My four 135mm lenses can be perfectly rangefinder-focused with each of my Leicas except my M240, so a case where it is the M240 that must be adjusted and becomes rather useless as a test platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted April 2, 2016 Share #79 Posted April 2, 2016 I don't understand this either... The focus on LV/EVF will always be accurate as you are reading off the sensor. The M240 rangefinder may have an error... and if all your other cameras focus properly on your 135, it can't be you. So it seems your 240 rangefinder is 'out'... as you have surmised. The EVF has to be the 'default' decider on whether there is a rangefinder issue... it cannot be the other way round... hence the advantage most of us see when it comes to LV/EVF (I suspect my reply is every bit as unclear as the post I was replying to... apologies if so...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 2, 2016 Share #80 Posted April 2, 2016 Ah. The M 240 is useless for testing lenses if the rangefinder is misaligned. This makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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