dkCambridgeshire Posted February 24, 2017 Share #21 Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Why don't you use the R 28mm shift lens ? It is excellent (I used it already on the R cameras). I also thought about adapting some midrange lenses, but found it in the end too tedious. The R 28 PC-Super-Angulon is good enough for me and still relatively handy. http://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-M-Type-240-aka-Leica-M10-digital-rangefinder-camera-page-33-The-Leica-R-Lenses-on-Leica-M240-Catwalk.html (after the middle of the report). I have thee shift lenses which are sufficient for current needs. If I decide to acquire a 28mm PC lens i'd likely choose one with a tilt option. dunk Edited February 24, 2017 by dkCambridgeshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 Hi dkCambridgeshire, Take a look here Tilt and shift adapted lenses on the SL.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
J S H Posted February 25, 2017 Share #22 Posted February 25, 2017 If anyone is considering getting one of the Hartblei super rotator lenses from the cheaper series, which use adapted old Pentacon medium format lenses, I would advise caution. I have the 80mm in R mount and whereas the tilt-shift mechanism is excellent, the lens optical quality leaves a fair bit to be desired. When used on the M240, the contrast was too low to trigger focus peaking at any aperture. Hopefully it will be easier to focus on the SL, due to the improved EVF and particularly the ability to be able to move the zoom patch, which was very restrictive on the M240. When for example you were using Scheimpflug tilt to have a slanted plane of focus, you could not check whether the top and bottom parts of the image were properly in focus and therefore determine the degree of tilt required. Also the SL App will enable you to look at a large focus image on a tablet, which will be very helpful for composition of a tilt shift image. Hartblei make a much more expensive range of lenses, based on the Zeiss medium format lenses made for the Hasselblad V series cameras. I would imagine these are a lot better than the Pentacon series lenses, given the high reputation of the Zeiss V series lenses. At some point I might consider the 40mm f4 lens but it isn't cheap at €5400, so you would need to use it a lot to justify that sort of expenditure. Wilson I have the Hartblei 40mm f/4 with the Zeiss optics. Optically it is great - much better than the Canon 45 T-SE. Wide open, at moderate tilt/shift settings it is sharp across the field. Stopped down to f/8 it is perfect across the field even at full tilt/shift. However, it is HUGE...larger and waaay heavier than the 85 Otus (both the Hartblei 40 and the 85 Otus use 86MM filters). It is big on the 1DX and it would be a monster on the SL. Canon is way overdue to update their 45 & 90 T-SE lenses, and when they do, that will likely be the sweet spot of size vs quality for standard to long FL tilt shift options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted February 25, 2017 Share #23 Posted February 25, 2017 I have thee shift lenses which are sufficient for current needs. If I decide to acquire a 28mm PC lens i'd likely choose one with a tilt option. dunk Misunderstanding. My reply was for the starter of the thread, not as a comment on your example. Just coincidence that it was after your entry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert E Posted March 3, 2017 Share #24 Posted March 3, 2017 I received my like new Leica R 28 PC-Super-Angulon lens today. All I can say is wow! What a beautiful crafted quality piece. Due to bad weather in the area today only got a few test shots done outside. Here are two of them, of a tall building I used for a test. To get the whole building in the frame, this is as close as you can stand without being in the street and getting run over as it's on a main route. It's an old classic building from 1899 and has a historical sign in the right of the photos. Let me know what you think of the 'before and after' vertical shift. (once again I'm having problems uploading, will try later) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert E Posted March 4, 2017 Share #25 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Normal view. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 4, 2017 by Robert E Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252322-tilt-and-shift-adapted-lenses-on-the-sl/?do=findComment&comment=3226396'>More sharing options...
Robert E Posted March 4, 2017 Share #26 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Shift upward from exact same position. Edited March 4, 2017 by Robert E 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Shift upward from exact same position. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252322-tilt-and-shift-adapted-lenses-on-the-sl/?do=findComment&comment=3226397'>More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted March 4, 2017 Share #27 Posted March 4, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone tried the (M240 or 246 or) SL on the Cambo Actus (or similar rig)? There is an M mount for that set up. But I've never read or seen any results from it. It's a logical alternative in theory to a TS lens. Does it work well, or what could be issues for things like stitching or front rise (e.g.colour casts etc)? Any insight appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share #28 Posted March 4, 2017 Has anyone tried the (M240 or 246 or) SL on the Cambo Actus (or similar rig)? There is an M mount for that set up. But I've never read or seen any results from it. It's a logical alternative in theory to a TS lens. Does it work well, or what could be issues for things like stitching or front rise (e.g.colour casts etc)? Any insight appreciated.I use it with my Zeiss 73mm. and SK 135 mm. lenses for macro. No experience with wider lenses. Sorry. In theory, the wide retrofocal lenses shall be better with the movements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 4, 2017 Share #29 Posted June 4, 2017 Does the Canon 24mm have its own tripod connection? This would allow to shift the camera instead the lens for Panorama shooting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 4, 2017 Share #30 Posted June 4, 2017 I've found the solution: Hartblei offers the solution: http://hcam.de/en/canon-tse-collar.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted June 4, 2017 Share #31 Posted June 4, 2017 I cannot see that it will work with the SL .... Or do they offer SL mount ? Or do you want to use a EOS to SL adapter ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted June 4, 2017 Share #32 Posted June 4, 2017 Pardon my ignorance.... What's the advantage of shifting to body for stitched panoramas versus the lens? I've not heard of that before. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted June 6, 2017 Share #33 Posted June 6, 2017 I cannot see that it will work with the SL .... Or do they offer SL mount ? Or do you want to use a EOS to SL adapter ? I myself do not have a Hartblei, but a friend does, and it is in an SL mount. so they can be made in an SL mount. Regarding Tilt-Shift/Shift lenses; I have used a 28PC Super Angulon R lens ........ a great lens! .....At least mine was. As I am now shooting 4K clips the crop factor renders the 28 into a 42mm PC lens. So I traded the S.Angulon 28 for a 17 Canon Tilt shift, with the Novoflex adapter. I have yet to use the Canon. I am sure it will be different. But it seems to be "the only game in town" for architecture ...... with the APS-c factor it will be about a 26 ... I am hoping perfect for building facades. The mirrorless possibilities of the SL are wonderful 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingo Posted June 6, 2017 Share #34 Posted June 6, 2017 Pardon my ignorance.... What's the advantage of shifting to body for stitched panoramas versus the lens? I've not heard of that before. Gordon It's more precise because you don't change the postion of the entrance pupil of the lens. In most 'real life' photos you will not notice the difference. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J S H Posted June 6, 2017 Share #35 Posted June 6, 2017 I've found the solution: Hartblei offers the solution: http://hcam.de/en/canon-tse-collar.htm Stefan Steib at Hartblei also makes a nice shift adapter that lets you mount Canon lenses directly to the SL. http://hcam.de/en/whatsnew.htm His products are well made and definitely worth a look. Along with the Canon 17 & 24 tilt-shift lenses (which are both great on the SL), there are several Canon zooms that have wide image circles and can provide quite a bit of shift (11-24, 16-35 f4, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 6, 2017 Share #36 Posted June 6, 2017 I cannot see that it will work with the SL .... Or do they offer SL mount ? Or do you want to use a EOS to SL adapter ? I use the EOS adapter, the adapter works fine for this purpose 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 6, 2017 Share #37 Posted June 6, 2017 Stefan Steib at Hartblei also makes a nice shift adapter that lets you mount Canon lenses directly to the SL. http://hcam.de/en/whatsnew.htm His products are well made and definitely worth a look. Thanks a lot for the hint. I didn't know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 6, 2017 Share #38 Posted June 6, 2017 It's more precise because you don't change the postion of the entrance pupil of the lens. In most 'real life' photos you will not notice the difference. It depends on the distance of the closest subject in relation to the background.The difference can be huge (look at the review of the Canon 24mm at Dpreview) or neglible (all subjects far away). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted June 7, 2017 Share #39 Posted June 7, 2017 Pardon my ignorance.... What's the advantage of shifting to body for stitched panoramas versus the lens? I've not heard of that before. Gordon Hi Gordon, I forgot to include the link. Look at the bottom of the following Page:https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-24-3p5-tse-c10/5 Martin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoebahydra Posted June 7, 2017 Share #40 Posted June 7, 2017 Tilt and shift with a mini-view camera which I had attached a Sony A7S in the photo. However, there is a M-mount that can be user changeable on the Cambo body and with the help of Leica M-adapter L one can attach a SL camera ......................... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252322-tilt-and-shift-adapted-lenses-on-the-sl/?do=findComment&comment=3291004'>More sharing options...
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