Pedro Posted October 20, 2015 Share #41 Posted October 20, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dimensions: Leica SL: 147 × 104 × 39 mm (W × H × D). 847 g with battery. Nikon D4: 160 x 156.5 x 90.5 mm (W × H × D). 1,340 g with battery. Let's not overreact regarding size and weight. It's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted October 20, 2015 Share #42 Posted October 20, 2015 The SL can work with M lenses but is not designed for them obviously so it will perform better with R lenses i suspect. Just reading what Sean Reid wrote about this and he seems to agree on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted October 20, 2015 Share #43 Posted October 20, 2015 I absolutely love it... Big a brash! True Leica SLR looks and design. This is very brave of Leica... And it so "R3"! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/251840-leica-sl-typ-601-mirrorless-system-camera-without-compromise/?do=findComment&comment=2909029'>More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted October 20, 2015 Share #44 Posted October 20, 2015 At the risk of asking a stupid question at this early stage, can I assume that the T lenses when fitted with an adapter to the body (assuming it needs one) are subject to a crop factor of about 1.5 (6) hence reducing the files to just over 10 meg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 20, 2015 Share #45 Posted October 20, 2015 Dimensions: Leica SL: 147 × 104 × 39 mm (W × H × D). 847 g with battery. Nikon D4: 160 x 156.5 x 90.5 mm (W × H × D). 1,340 g with battery. Let's not overreact regarding size and weight. It's fine. Ouch! Nikon D4? Why not Hasselblad? Comparing it to M240, Sony A7R, Leica R4 and Leicaflex SL, the new SL is the bulkier camera (built-in hand grips not excluded): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/251840-leica-sl-typ-601-mirrorless-system-camera-without-compromise/?do=findComment&comment=2909051'>More sharing options...
tntrue Posted October 20, 2015 Share #46 Posted October 20, 2015 Leica R 28-90mm: Length to bayonet flange - 99 mm / 3.9 in Largest diameter - 80 mm / 3.1 in Weight - 740 g / 26.1 oz SL 24-90mm: Dimensions: (DxL) Approx. 3.46 x 5.43" (88 x 138 mm) Weight 2.51 lb (1140 g) 1140 g ??? I guess the 90-280mm will require its own caisson... Looks like I'll be enjoying manual focus for a while longer . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted October 20, 2015 Share #47 Posted October 20, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) So I've just spent an hour reading the many, very positive reviews the SL is getting. This camera is being taken seriously as a genuine competitor to top of the line Nikons and Canons - a very dangerous place to be, you'd say, especially given Leica's size, and what their products costs. Except: I am a dedicated M shooter. Last year on safari, I used the M-240 and it worked, using R long lenses, as well as a Monochrom, limited to 90mm. But honestly, I was jealous of my son with his Canon and AF. I said to myself that the next time I was planning a safari, or an expedition where long lenses and AF would be essential, I'd probably also have to get a used S and a long lens. Don't have a trip planned, and don't need to buy the SL tomorrow. But, based on the good reviews, pretty much across the board, will I be getting an SL and that 90-280 lens some time in the future? Yes. For Leica photographers who sometimes need capabilities beyond what an M can get us, if you can afford it, why not get the SL? At the end of the day, I bet it's a winner for Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted October 21, 2015 Share #48 Posted October 21, 2015 Seems like a good full-featured camera with bells and whistles. However, can someone tell me what this camera has that a Sony A7RII does not? I am sure that the 601 would have been optimised for the SL lenses, but amy indication how it performs with M lenses. Is there a review anywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted October 21, 2015 Share #49 Posted October 21, 2015 I'd think a system with such big lenses, weather sealing, and an emphasis on eye level shooting would call for a different shape body than this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinj Posted October 21, 2015 Share #50 Posted October 21, 2015 However, can someone tell me what this camera has that a Sony A7RII does not? To start with, A7Rii does not have a red dot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted October 21, 2015 Share #51 Posted October 21, 2015 However, can someone tell me what this camera has that a Sony A7RII does not? It can mount any Leica lens: native SL as well as S, M, R, T & Cine (via adapters). I won't be surprised if Canon & other adapters are offered by 3rd parties in the future. Arguably better esthetics and ergonomics. Dual cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted October 21, 2015 Share #52 Posted October 21, 2015 Reviews by some not in the Leica fold have not been so positive, especially as to AF performance in low light. Given Leica's history of rarely meeting the deliveries of new promised lenses, it appears to be a one horse camera for quite some time. Accessories have usually taken Leica even longer to deliver so adapters for other lenses, while promised may not appear for 1 or 2 years. What does one do with a one zoom lens camera that weighs 4.4lbs? How often will this camera be taken with anyone? Would the pro community purchase this camera at this time or wait until other lenses and adapters were actually available? The saving grace for Leica will be that the actual production cost using mostly Panasonic internals will allow for a rather large profit margin with small sales numbers and that appears to be Leica's strategy in its pricing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted October 21, 2015 Share #53 Posted October 21, 2015 I am also quite disappointed at the size and weight of this camera. Indeed, it is much smaller and lighter than a Nikon D4 or Canon 1D, but what if it is compared to a Canon 5D series or Nikon D800 series ? It is then roughly the same size, has no optical view finder (no matter how nice its EVF is) and the native lenses proposed for it are huge... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted October 21, 2015 Share #54 Posted October 21, 2015 Does it get red,green, or blue lines when a pixel goes bad? Not interested in anything that needs $500 in factory service that photoshop ACR does free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm_user Posted October 21, 2015 Share #55 Posted October 21, 2015 I predict a special version without a red dot. And another that is pre-scratched and named after a celebrity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm_user Posted October 21, 2015 Share #56 Posted October 21, 2015 Ironically I repeated myself with a double post. Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted October 21, 2015 Share #57 Posted October 21, 2015 I am confused with this marketing definition of a "camera for professionals and for professional photography". My understanding of a professional photographer is one who either works for a company and holds a job to take photographs, or who takes really takes good photographs as an individual, and who makes money from selling them. In the first case, it's the company who the photographer works for who purchases cameras for use e.g. media companies, newspapers, magazine publishing houses etc. I am not sure if they would purchase an SL for their staff over Canons, Nikons and the like. In the second case, I am not sure that the SL will bring some significant advantage to their existing gear, and that would help them make more money. If it's not the above, then the SL is merely targeting the camera enthusiasts with money willing to splurge on a new toy. Maybe something that they can use with their collection of lenses. So outside of the marketing messages, what is the target market for the SL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 21, 2015 Share #58 Posted October 21, 2015 Apparently, in addition to playing better with all Leica lenses, the SL has a larger mount, better EVF, Leica believes 24MP is more appropriate for the pictures people actually take, better AF, better sensor, and probably better made. As to the paucity of lenses, isn't that the inevitable result of a new camera system with a new mount? For lenses you can use, there is pretty much every Leica lens ever made. For AF, there are all the S lenses. For native lenses,sure there will be just one for the moment. I don't think there was ever any prospect of Leica having an assortment of new lenses from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 21, 2015 Share #59 Posted October 21, 2015 Indeed, it is much smaller and lighter than a Nikon D4 or Canon 1D, but what if it is compared to a Canon 5D series or Nikon D800 series ? Here it is compared to D800E with 24-120 f4 zoom (and a Q).... https://www.flickr.com/photos/mingthein/21615453253/in/dateposted/ Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted October 21, 2015 Share #60 Posted October 21, 2015 At the risk of asking a stupid question at this early stage, can I assume that the T lenses when fitted with an adapter to the body (assuming it needs one) are subject to a crop factor of about 1.5 (6) hence reducing the files to just over 10 meg No adapter needed for T lenses, and you're about right about the crop factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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