ShivaYash Posted September 15, 2015 Share #1 Â Posted September 15, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seeking the advice of users of this lens. Â I'm finding less PP required on this lens. Although a bit of 'clarity' in LR is most welcome. Is this because I'm in love with this bit of glass? Looking for unbiased views. I'm coming from 35f2IV terrority. Â More generally, Other than VSCO, who does nice filters for LR? Â Ta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stealth3kpl Posted September 15, 2015 Share #2 Â Posted September 15, 2015 Why do you call it FAG? Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share #3  Posted September 15, 2015 This is what it should be called ;-) Floating Aspheric Group not Element. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250148-35mm-f14-fag-pp-and-vsco-filters/?do=findComment&comment=2888723'>More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted September 16, 2015 Share #4 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Hello Everybody, Â It would appear to me that there are 5 lens elements "floating" together Making up the "group" in question. I only see 1 surface of 1 of the lens elements that is an aspherical surface. Â That appears to me to mean that there is only 1 Floating Lens Element that has an aspherical surface. Â Best Regards, Â Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted September 16, 2015 Share #5 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Now that you have the 35lux, do you understand what I meant by "the 35cron V4 is soft wide open?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #6 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Now that you have the 35lux, do you understand what I meant by "the 35cron V4 is soft wide open?" Yes. It was your comments that led me to getting a new lens. Many thanks for explaining things to me. I love the sharpness of the 'lux. I've known sharpness for many years, the 50/2 is an example but the 'lux gives that appearance of razor sharpness fingerprint whilst still retaining the pop factor. Can you tell I like it? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted September 16, 2015 Share #7 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...I should stop reading this thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #8 Â Posted September 16, 2015 ...I should stop reading this thread... Why Bill? What's wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted September 16, 2015 Share #9  Posted September 16, 2015 Temptation... That is what is wrong...!  i have a 35 Summicron ASPH... my first new Leica lens.  If I'm being truthful, I have never really got on with it, despite its reputation. I bought it initially as I thought I would use just one lens for a year or two and a 35 seemed the most sensible single lens kit. I was already spending more than I should on a new camera and so decided that the 35 1.4 was an extravagance.  Trouble was, if I'm being honest, my first few months with my Leica M-P and 35 were a bit of a disappointment. I lost confidence and was not sure whether it was me or the lens. Sometimes I just think it is soft, sometimes I just think I can't focus... yet I couldn't find a plane within the frame that looked IN focus to me... so the disappointment continued.  Then, in February, I bought a Summilux 50 ASPH.  It changed everything. From the moment I bought it, my Leica now felt like a 'Leica'...  and more importantly, my images had that 'look' I had always wanted... incredibly sharp when needed.... and that beautiful, characterful, soft bokeh...finally I had everything I needed in a camera.  Now I realise that the 35 Lux is what I should have bought in the first place... If I had, I may still be on that 'one lens kit' I had wanted to be content with for a couple of years... and I would probably have enjoyed the whole Leica thing right from the start.  So your thread just reminds me that the 35 Lux has that 'something' that every Leica user wants... image quality with character... My Cron just doesn't seem to have it... It's very competent, very competent indeed, but has never been truly sharp, and ultimately produces fairly ordinary looking images compared to my 50 Lux.  The sensible thing would be to get rid of the 35 Cron and buy a 28 now I have a 50... but to be honest, I still love the idea of wandering around with just the one lens. More often than not, carrying a full kit is a pain in the arse and, besides, carrying everything makes me feel I ought to change lenses, or at least think about it - yet I never actually do...  So I quite fancy the idea of having a 28/50/90 system in my bag... And having a 35 Lux almost permanently mounted on my M240P... and leaving the bag in the hotel room or in the car most of the time...  This thread has confirmed my thoughts... trouble is, my 35 Cron will probably not realise all that much despite it being less than a year old and bought from new... and a 35 Lux is unaffordable at the moment... plus, having spent £10,000 on a camera and lenses within the past year, not really appropriate, even if I could afford to...  Hence the sad face... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonathanP Posted September 16, 2015 Share #10 Â Posted September 16, 2015 I know this is a personal preference thing, but my main tip for using the 35FLE is not to over sharpen the images - using it on a M240 I find the default Lightroom sharpening amount is too much and I much prefer using a default of 15. As Shiva noted, I also find it needs little work (I'm not a fan of over-processed images though). Â [cover you ears Bill] If I could only keep one lens it would be my 35FLE. Even though I rarely use it wide open - its my landscape f/8 lens most of the time - it performs stopped down so well both in detail and the way it draws. For me its merits at f/8 are at least as important as its wide open performance and I wouldn't swap back to my previous 'cron ASPH. Â Its not perfect. It has quite a bit of field curvature (interestingly I found that for a lot of my images this helps due to the direction it curves in - once you stop making test images) and can exhibit wide open bokeh thats not as nice as the 50lux, but again in real life images I find this much less of an issue than the testers will make out! Â To make a 35mm f/1.4 lens in that weight and size (compare it to some of the monster DSLR high performance lenses) will always require compromises in the design, but from my perspective Leica have really made the right choices. Â Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted September 16, 2015 Share #11 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Now that you have the 35lux, do you understand what I meant by "the 35cron V4 is soft wide open?" My 35 v4 cron isn't soft wide open. 15fbpicwideopen35croV4_1 by f4saregreat!, on Flickr 15fbpicwideopen35croV4_2 by f4saregreat!, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 16, 2015 Share #12 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Temptation... That is what is wrong...! Â i have a 35 Summicron ASPH... my first new Leica lens. [...] Sometimes I just think it is soft, sometimes I just think I can't focus... yet I couldn't find a plane within the frame that looked IN focus to me... so the disappointment continued. [...] Â the 35 Lux has that 'something' that every Leica user wants... image quality with character... My Cron just doesn't seem to have it... It's very competent, very competent indeed, but has never been truly sharp, and ultimately produces fairly ordinary looking images compared to my 50 Lux. [...] Â It should not with respect. I have those three lenses and i can hardly tell a difference between them, save that the bokeh of both FLE 35/1.4 and 50/1.4 is generally harsher than that of the 35/2 asph around f/2 - f/2.8. Perhaps your 35/2 asph needs some calibration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 16, 2015 Share #13 Â Posted September 16, 2015 My 35 v4 cron isn't soft wide open. Â ... in the center of the frame. Borders and corners are significantly softer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted September 16, 2015 Share #14 Â Posted September 16, 2015 ... in the center of the frame. Borders and corners are significantly softer. Thats true with all lenses and unless you are shooting a parallel wall at f2 makes no difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #15  Posted September 16, 2015 Thats true with all lenses and unless you are shooting a parallel wall at f2 makes no difference.  Not really... the FAG is sharp till the corners, wide open. So is the 'cron 28.  "Sharpness The Leica 28mm f/2 ASPH is the worlds sharpest 28mm lens, but not by much. It's always super sharp; center, corner, and everywhere in between, at every aperture." http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/28mm-f2-asph.htm  But in all seriousness, KR needs to be read with a rather large pinch of salt. I love my IV but doing events in available light, am already finding the FLE sharp till the edges. Its nice and suits me and my style of shooting. The IV is a keeper, for other things... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #16  Posted September 16, 2015 "Sharpness  The more you know about photography, the more you know that lens sharpness doesn't matter. This said, this is the sharpest 35mm lens I've ever tested. It is even sharper in the center than the previous lens at all apertures, and sharper in the corners at large apertures. Shot on a LEICA M9 in DNG, it's scary sharp even at f/1.4. The corners are sharp at f/1.4, with just a tiny bit of coma. The farthest corners improve a little at f/2, and much more at f2.8 and f/4. They are perfect by f/5.6. No other lens is this good. I'm analyzing the tiniest of details under rare test conditions where something is in perfect focus in the corners. In actual photography, shoot at f/1.4 if you need it. It's just as sharp as stopped down."  http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/35mm-f14-floating-element.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #17  Posted September 16, 2015 One final quote that I think is relevant to this thread by KR:  "Honestly, any LEICA SUMMICRON 35mm will make great pictures. 99% of an image comes from the photographer's imagination, not his toys."  http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/35mm-f2-8-element.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 16, 2015 Share #18 Â Posted September 16, 2015 Â <sigh> Once again Ken's arrow drops short of the target. Â I have always understood the acronym FLE to stand for 'Floating Lens Elements', which is correct since there is more than one element in the floating group, and as Michael points out there's only one aspherical surface in the group so to call it a floating aspherical group makes no sense to me. Â Please can we consign the odious acronym 'FAG' to the bin permanently? Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 16, 2015 Share #19  Posted September 16, 2015 Don't listen to Rockwell, his website is only good for quick reference to numbers and data about lenses... not what he thinks is it's correct name, or especially not what he thinks is good or bad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 16, 2015 Share #20 Â Posted September 16, 2015 What's FAG? The current 35/1.4 is known as FLE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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