jdlaing Posted August 27, 2015 Share #561 Posted August 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) They already have a DSLR it's the S system... why would they make a fullframe DSLR while they actually got rid of the R system. A. R system was not digital. B. Because they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jip Posted August 27, 2015 Share #562 Posted August 27, 2015 It was they had the DMR and they dropped it, not because it wasn't good but just because it wasn't feasible. With the S they have something unique that sets them apart (like with the M) The will NOT release a new DSLR. except the S line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 27, 2015 Share #563 Posted August 27, 2015 S is medium format. 35mm DSLR is a dead end. Mirrorless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted August 27, 2015 Share #564 Posted August 27, 2015 Yes so no new DSLR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted August 27, 2015 Share #565 Posted August 27, 2015 Yes so no new DSLR Yup for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted August 27, 2015 Share #566 Posted August 27, 2015 So, after weeks of debate, what are you all predicting? If announcement is only a fortnight away what has anyone to prove? Speculation is OK when it is based on fact. Speculation without fact is a pipe dream. No fact, all fiction, is acceptable in literature but not much use to anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 27, 2015 Share #567 Posted August 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Speculation without fact is...........speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 27, 2015 Share #568 Posted August 27, 2015 I have said it before and I say it again: There will be no new DSLR system, neither from Leica nor from any other vendor. Any new system will be mirrorless. That sounds very reassuring, and perhaps it is an accurate reflection of the state of dSLR demand; but does it really withstand closer inspection? You are not saying there will be no new dSLR cameras, just new systems. A new system would mean that the main dSLR players (Canon & Nikon) would develop either a new mount (why would they do that?) or a new format (Leica is pretty much the only player to introduce a new dSLR in medium format with the S camera, and that is pretty much niche). From what we read, I would think that both prospects are very unlikely - a new digital medium format would be pretty amazing, but to be honest, if I was looking in that direction, I'd be looking at the new PhaseOne system or the S(007). So it is not really that profound, is it? What you're really saying is that there is no growth in dSLR to warrant a new player, or for Leica to go back into 35mm SLR as it already has S series medium format dSLR, the rangefinder and shortly a mirrorless system camera (that is certainly what I understand from the titbits I have heard). I do agree with the speculation that the new system camera is not going to be aimed at the Sony end of the market; Leica's point of difference is providing state of the art well, without unnecessary frills (that level of refinement doesn't come cheap). That is what makes this all the more interesting. Leica's interpretation of the APS-C camera (the T) was, in my view, brilliant. Its interpretation of the full frame mirrorless system is going to be similarly very interesting - particularly if they follow the lead by bringing the design in-house as they did with the Q. I'm not sure that a lot of what has been suggested is realistic (e.g., no M adapter - that would be an odd move, considering that the M lenses are at the top for full frame 35mm photography; even the Red video cameras have an M lens adapter). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 27, 2015 Share #569 Posted August 27, 2015 If announcement is only a fortnight away what has anyone to prove? If … There may be even more time for idle speculation than just two weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 27, 2015 Share #570 Posted August 27, 2015 The will NOT release a new DSLR. except the S line. And even the S could evolve into a mirrorless camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted August 27, 2015 Share #571 Posted August 27, 2015 Maybe but not anytime soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted August 28, 2015 Share #572 Posted August 28, 2015 35mm DSLR is a dead end. Mirrorless. I have little doubt this factored into Leica's decision to not develop an R10, or whatever they'd have called it. The amortization of R&D would have extended beyond the life expectancy of the 35mm SLR concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 28, 2015 Share #573 Posted August 28, 2015 I have little doubt this factored into Leica's decision to not develop an R10, or whatever they'd have called it. The amortization of R&D would have extended beyond the life expectancy of the 35mm SLR concept. Agreed. In my opinion ... Good thinking on the part of Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted August 28, 2015 Share #574 Posted August 28, 2015 Let's hope they get it right this time If it's bigger than a M6, I'm not interested. I totally agree. Let us not forget this!https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1807005251/frankencamera-ii Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 28, 2015 Share #575 Posted August 28, 2015 I really hope this announcement is crap... My wallet can't take much more... Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 28, 2015 Share #576 Posted August 28, 2015 Speculation without fact is...........speculation. I prefer Aural M@sturbation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 28, 2015 Share #577 Posted August 28, 2015 I really hope this announcement is crap... My wallet can't take much more... Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkonkkrete Posted August 28, 2015 Share #578 Posted August 28, 2015 Just got back from a week long holiday in a packed European tourist city. Practically everyone had a <2 year old Canon DSLR around their neck. A few Fuji's, a few A7 variants and one suave looking older German gent with an M9. But thousands upon thousands of Canons (and some Nikons too). Anyway, having shot practically the whole week with an M9 ... I don't think I need anything else. Live view would have been useful on a few occasions. Better ISO and higher dynamic range from time to time. Very occasionally fast AF would have helped. But, you know, once you've got AF on a lens, it's very hard to have the discipline to shoot manual. The M is something special: pure and reduced. I hope they keep it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 28, 2015 Share #579 Posted August 28, 2015 Just got back from a week long holiday in a packed European tourist city. Practically everyone had a <2 year old Canon DSLR around their neck. A few Fuji's, a few A7 variants and one suave looking older German gent with an M9. But thousands upon thousands of Canons (and some Nikons too). Anyway, having shot practically the whole week with an M9 ... I don't think I need anything else. Live view would have been useful on a few occasions. Better ISO and higher dynamic range from time to time. Very occasionally fast AF would have helped. But, you know, once you've got AF on a lens, it's very hard to have the discipline to shoot manual. The M is something special: pure and reduced. I hope they keep it that way. It's funny but I had exactly the same experience. Just came back from one week in the Czech Republic and I was shocked at the number of Canon and Nikon DSLRs in the hands of tourists. Very few mirrorless and mostly with Asian tourists, but the vast majority was DSLRS which makes me wonder about the imminent death of this technology at the hands of mirrorless. One guy even brought a 1Dx with a 50/1.4 to a classical concert but didn't try to take any photos. I only saw an M3 with one Chinese tourist but never anyone with a digital M, apart from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted August 28, 2015 Share #580 Posted August 28, 2015 Recently spent 10 days shooting in Venice. The world and his wife were wearing a DSLR around their necks. Thankfully my Leicas didn't get a second glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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