biglou Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1861 Posted October 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It doesn’t matter. Leica has the technology developed anyway and it might cost more to disable it than to just leave it in. And video is a big thing for Leica. I understand, so let Leica use their cameras then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jennifer Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1862 Posted October 21, 2015 NEW M.. This year.. This Fall... So, the SL is not the new M: no surprise there then. But will we really have to wait until Photokina 2016 before Leica announces an M with a similarly decent accessory EVF? My guess is yes. However, more interestingly, to me at least, is whether they'll stick with the OVF or bite the bullet and go with their high res EVF or some combination thereof.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1863 Posted October 21, 2015 Or migrate to something incorporating this rumored technology... http://leicarumors.com/2015/10/14/leicas-patents-for-optoelectronic-rangefinder.aspx/#more-37877 Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1864 Posted October 21, 2015 My guess is yes. However, more interestingly, to me at least, is whether they'll stick with the OVF or bite the bullet and go with their high res EVF or some combination thereof.. I doubt that will ever happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1865 Posted October 21, 2015 It doesn’t matter. Leica has the technology developed anyway and it might cost more to disable it than to just leave it in. And video is a big thing for Leica. Why is this? Does Dr. Kaufmann see himself as a potential movie director? He is quite proud of the Leica Cine line, and likely with justification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1866 Posted October 21, 2015 Why is this? Does Dr. Kaufmann see himself as a potential movie director? He is quite proud of the Leica Cine line, and likely with justification. Do Leica's cine lenses work on the SL? Just asking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1867 Posted October 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why is this? Does Dr. Kaufmann see himself as a potential movie director? He is quite proud of the Leica Cine line, and likely with justification. Indeed. If you are watching any Hollywood blockbuster, chances are the pictures you see were shot using CW Sonderoptic lenses, with asperical elements ground in Wetzlar (and as I heard today, ever since they have mastered the daunting task of grinding lenses for CW Sonderoptic, everything else now looks so much easier by comparison). Which isn’t to say that other Leica lenses were not suited for video. And when you have the lenses, why not go the whole way and build cameras that perform as well as much more expensive dedicated movie cameras? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1868 Posted October 21, 2015 Do Leica's cine lenses work on the SL? Just asking. You bet they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1869 Posted October 21, 2015 M lenses, C lenses, T lenses, R lenses, SL lenses, S lenses. This camera can shoot every interchangeable lens Leica makes, even has a crop mode for Leica T lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1870 Posted October 21, 2015 Indeed. If you are watching any Hollywood blockbuster, chances are the pictures you see were shot using CW Sonderoptic lenses, with asperical elements ground in Wetzlar (and as I heard today, ever since they have mastered the daunting task of grinding lenses for CW Sonderoptic, everything else now looks so much easier by comparison). Which isn’t to say that other Leica lenses were not suited for video. And when you have the lenses, why not go the whole way and build cameras that perform as well as much more expensive dedicated movie cameras? Very interesting. So RED cameras must be very expensive. It would be ironic if the savior of Leica Camera in the digital era, so to speak, was a video capability integrated into an ostensibly robust still camera (typ 601). We see Canon cameras with monstrous zooms doing video work for TV and web streams around our lab all of the time... perhaps Leica is aiming at this niche. I cannot help digressing to my favorite gear-- I once shot a brief video interview for a colleague with my M240 + APO 50. The video editor was later shocked by the "clean, pure quality" of the raw file I had turned over. The guy said it must be a great camera. I replied that the glass was actually even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 21, 2015 Share #1871 Posted October 21, 2015 Not so bad - you can get an Epic package for about $40,000 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1872 Posted October 22, 2015 Compared to the M240, the SL601 is: • 6% (8 mm) wider and 30% (24 mm) taller • 7% (3 mm) thinner • 25% (167 g) heavier source: http://camerasize.com/compare/#639,389 But add the first lens and you get 2000g or 4.4 lbs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1873 Posted October 22, 2015 But add the first lens and you get 2000g or 4.4 lbs. For comparison, add a comparable zoom lens for the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1874 Posted October 22, 2015 Well that would be the: 4.0/28-50 MATE E49 of 340gm 2.8-4.0/28-90 Vario-Elmarit-R E67 of 740gm compared with 2.8-3.8/24-90 Vario-Elmarit-SL E82 of 1140gm But we are comparing apples with oranges. I would not expect an AF IS 2.8-4.0/24-90 Zoom lens to be much smaller or lighter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1876 Posted October 22, 2015 Do Leica's cine lenses work on the SL? Just asking. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/248322-new-m-this-year-this-fall/?do=findComment&comment=2910288'>More sharing options...
jmahto Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1877 Posted October 22, 2015 This thread keeps coming back to SL. To me it seems it is not for M users. There are better choices for seldom used second body. Even Q is a good supplement. Then who is this target user base? Outside Leicaphiles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlstone Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1878 Posted October 22, 2015 Seriously, this is like a nightmare or some cruel prank. The M is way long in the tooth. It no doubt is stil more than capable- that's not in debate. It's just that, I mean wtf... They built a new factory, opened all these stores, and I'm still almost a year into waiting for a an MM 246. It's so long I don't give a crap anymore. I just want a new M. Not some bull crap auto focus fixed lens camera, not an interchangeable one either. That's a different deal altogether. I want the damn camera that has been evolving for 100 years- a mother effing M. I wouldn't give a damn if it was even in the same body. Just an improved sensor and the option to have an at least competitive EVF. The EVF improved and released alone would be a sign of respect. Bottom line- the rangefinder is a joy of photography. The M is made for people that love simplicity. This SL, Q, T- seriously get real. Make-a-new-M and allow me to not have to defend this elitist, half assed company any longer. Dude... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1879 Posted October 22, 2015 Seriously, this is like a nightmare or some cruel prank. The M is way long in the tooth. It no doubt is stil more than capable- that's not in debate. It's just that, I mean wtf... They built a new factory, opened all these stores, and I'm still almost a year into waiting for a an MM 246. It's so long I don't give a crap anymore. I just want a new M. Not some bull crap auto focus fixed lens camera, not an interchangeable one either. That's a different deal altogether. I want the damn camera that has been evolving for 100 years- a mother effing M. I wouldn't give a damn if it was even in the same body. Just an improved sensor and the option to have an at least competitive EVF. The EVF improved and released alone would be a sign of respect. Bottom line- the rangefinder is a joy of photography. The M is made for people that love simplicity. This SL, Q, T- seriously get real. Make-a-new-M and allow me to not have to defend this elitist, half assed company any longer. Dude... Welcome to the Leica forum. leica releases a new M every 3/4 years in the meantime the price reflects this rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 22, 2015 Share #1880 Posted October 22, 2015 Seriously, this is like a nightmare or some cruel prank. The M is way long in the tooth. It no doubt is stil more than capable- that's not in debate. It's just that, I mean wtf... They built a new factory, opened all these stores, and I'm still almost a year into waiting for a an MM 246. It's so long I don't give a crap anymore. I just want a new M. Not some bull crap auto focus fixed lens camera, not an interchangeable one either. That's a different deal altogether. I want the damn camera that has been evolving for 100 years- a mother effing M. I wouldn't give a damn if it was even in the same body. Just an improved sensor and the option to have an at least competitive EVF. The EVF improved and released alone would be a sign of respect. Bottom line- the rangefinder is a joy of photography. The M is made for people that love simplicity. This SL, Q, T- seriously get real. Make-a-new-M and allow me to not have to defend this elitist, half assed company any longer. Dude... Welcome to the forum. Breath... and look at some more SL porn while we wait for the new M. Another view from my deck. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/248322-new-m-this-year-this-fall/?do=findComment&comment=2910363'>More sharing options...
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