TheGodParticle/Hari Posted December 19, 2015 Share #161  Posted December 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is that rare? I think I have it. It's not rare, getting a copy in excellent condition takes time and patience due to its age  Are you selling yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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james.liam Posted December 19, 2015 Share #162  Posted December 19, 2015 It (black 50 Rigid) is not rare, getting a copy in excellent condition takes time and patience due to its age  Are you selling yours?  I thought it was quite uncommon. I do recall some prototypes made late in the production cycle were encased in the barrel of the model that followed the Rigid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted December 19, 2015 Share #163 Â Posted December 19, 2015 In fact, Thorsten has images of two of them and they seemed to have been rarities:Â http://www.overgaard.dk/leica_M4_50mm_summicron-M_20.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 19, 2015 Share #164 Â Posted December 19, 2015 Interesting...postmortem GAS? Â Jeff I'm not sure what you mean. I still have and use quite a few M lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #165  Posted December 20, 2015 I agree, 28/35/50 can be considered very close, but I find they serve distinctly different purposes. Plus I (like so many others) use 28/50 as a pair on two bodies, and I use 35 on its own with just one body. It all depends on what I'm shooting / carrying with me.  Seems to work for me I had a 28 Sumicron, which I traded in to help finance my Safari set. My reasoning was that the 28 'cron and the 35 'cron that came with the Safari set were close enough in angle of view that I would not miss the 28 'cron.  I was wrong.  The 28 'cron renders very differently from the 35 'cron. It's not just the angle of view - it's everything about the fingerprint of the two lenses. It is hard to quantify, hard to put into words, but these two lenses are very different; IMHO it would not be redundant to have both in your bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram Posted December 20, 2015 Share #166  Posted December 20, 2015 I had a 28 Sumicron, which I traded in to help finance my Safari set. My reasoning was that the 28 'cron and the 35 'cron that came with the Safari set were close enough in angle of view that I would not miss the 28 'cron.  I was wrong.  The 28 'cron renders very differently from the 35 'cron. It's not just the angle of view - it's everything about the fingerprint of the two lenses. It is hard to quantify, hard to put into words, but these two lenses are very different; IMHO it would not be redundant to have both in your bag. Well that's encouraging to hear! Glad to know I'm not totally nuts . I tried a friend's 28 Summicron while I was in Iceland this summer and I loved the samples I took home from it. Very much looking forward to having my own. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted December 20, 2015 Share #167  Posted December 20, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Occasionally I think about the Thamber and the Summarex. I've never owned either of these.  I find that I swing between wanting the super-corrected high contrast modern look, and something old, low contrast and interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted December 20, 2015 Share #168  Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Occasionally I think about the Thamber and the Summarex. I've never owned either of these.  I find that I swing between wanting the super-corrected high contrast modern look, and something old, low contrast and interesting.  Then you ought to try a Voigtländer.  Finding an unscathed and haze-free sample of a 60+ year-old optic isn't an easy task. Then there's the cost of a CLA which, more often than not, is inevitable.  Cosina does a fine job bridging modern & classical. Edited December 20, 2015 by james.liam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaFFM Posted December 21, 2015 Share #169  Posted December 21, 2015 I want the new Dupont Noctilux. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted December 21, 2015 Share #170  Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) There is no known cure...  Indeed, only temporary symptom relief with high-value retail therapy. Edited December 21, 2015 by MarkP 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencoyote Posted December 23, 2015 Share #171 Â Posted December 23, 2015 I wish Leica or Zeiss would make a new macro lens for the M series, now that the Live View and EVFs are available to supplement RF focus, which presumably will cary forward into future generations of the Leica M, with improvements. I'd think a 75mm or 90mm, perhaps f/2.8 or f/2 at max aperture, that focuses to at least 1:2 repro ratio would be good, one that is coupled to the rangefinder down to 0.7 meter, then relies on focus peaking at closer distances. It could have a slight detent or bump in the RF cam of the lens at 0.7m to let you know to switch viewfinders. The current Macro-Elmar 90mm/4 does not appeal to me, but a lens which would be designed for the current ergonomic state of art of the Leica M system would make sense to me. I like macro, I have the macro adapter and even with LV and focus peaking, it is damn hard to get decent macro shots with either the 50 or the 90AA. Despite my best hopes and a lot of effort the M is probably not the right camera for macro. The depth of field is just too thin. You can't hand hold it easily. LV burns your battery and even with a tripod physical objects move due to wind or their own volition. Â The best camera for macro that I've tried is the Olympus OM-D E-M1 with the 60mm macro lens. The small sensor with its larger DOF, Â good continious AF, in body stabilization and now focus stacking all just make it work really well for macro. Â I really hope the 60mm Macro-Elmar-TL has OIS and is really good and what I really want is probably a 90 or 120mm Macro-Elmar-SL lens. Then my big trip travel setup will be the M body, 28 cron, 50 lux, 90 cron. My backup body will be a SL with a whatever macro lens Leica comes up with, the 90-280, and the M-adapter-T. The M for most things but the SL for the things the M is not good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 23, 2015 Share #172 Â Posted December 23, 2015 I'm not sure what you mean. I still have and use quite a few M lenses. It means you'll eventually die and that will end the lust.... either that or postmortem GAS. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a911s Posted December 23, 2015 Share #173  Posted December 23, 2015 The 28 'cron renders very differently from the 35 'cron. It's not just the angle of view - it's everything about the fingerprint of the two lenses. It is hard to quantify, hard to put into words, but these two lenses are very different; IMHO it would not be redundant to have both in your bag.  Absolutely agree. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted December 23, 2015 Share #174 Â Posted December 23, 2015 Back in the days when I belonged to the LHSA, I bought that 50mm Summicron made for the LHSA. Â I sold it - - yeah, I was crazy. I wish I had it back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted December 24, 2015 Share #175 Â Posted December 24, 2015 It means you'll eventually die and that will end the lust.... either that or postmortem GAS. Â Jeff "GAS from Beyond the Grave" Â Sounds like a midnight showing at the Hwy 66 Drive-in. Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 24, 2015 Share #176 Â Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) 35mm F0/.75 Edited December 24, 2015 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 24, 2015 Share #177 Â Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) It means you'll eventually die and that will end the lust.... either that or postmortem GAS. Â Edited December 24, 2015 by jdlaing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted December 24, 2015 Share #178  Posted December 24, 2015 In fact, Thorsten has images of two of them and they seemed to have been rarities: http://www.overgaard.dk/leica_M4_50mm_summicron-M_20.html I've come across quite a few of them so I wouldn't call them rare. I guess it depends on how much time you spend looking for something  A kind member here connected me to a seller, let's see if we can agree on a price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted December 24, 2015 Share #179  Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Occasionally I think about the Thamber and the Summarex. I've never owned either of these.  I find that I swing between wanting the super-corrected high contrast modern look, and something old, low contrast and interesting. The "King Rex" is a fine lens indeed!    I have the same condition ... one day I prefer a Karbe look and the next I'm reaching for an uncoated Xenon   Best to have two sets of lenses I guess - one that gets out of the way and the other that is the way Edited December 24, 2015 by TheGodParticle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share #180 Â Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) 35mm F0/.75 I see that there is already a UV filter being made for it:Â http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/11950-REG/B_W_65030314_112mm_Ultraviolet_UV_Filter.html/prm/alsVwDtl Edited December 24, 2015 by Carlos Danger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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