JohnJWhite Posted May 28, 2015 Share #21 Posted May 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) If Leica was ever going to produce a lightweight M body I suspect they would have done it by now. But who knows, perhaps they're working on a carbon fiber version? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 28, 2015 Posted May 28, 2015 Hi JohnJWhite, Take a look here Almost an MP 240 owner.....but I have one concern. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jmahto Posted May 28, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 28, 2015 First, welcome to the forum. Second, if you are worried about the weight then chose lens carefully. Third, photographic moments do not wait while we wait for the perfect camera. I am sure you will have tons of fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted May 28, 2015 Share #23 Posted May 28, 2015 I doubt very much that it will get any lighter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted May 28, 2015 Share #24 Posted May 28, 2015 Which lens do you plan to use? M lens weight varies from 120g. to nearly 1000g. Choosing the right lens might make all the difference. It does for me. A Summicron 40C, Elmarit 28 or even an old LTM 50 Elmar make a difference when you carry it all day. And if that is not light enough, I found I can live with the performance of my X2 with a EVF if I do not have my M9 with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted May 28, 2015 I appreciate you all pushing me over the edge....I knew you would. I was only concerned with the new model because I don't trade up too often and it would tick me off if next year my 240 was replaced with a 240 "lighter".....but it won't. This morning I ordered an M-P 240 w/50 and 35mm Summicron. I also got a ThumbsUp to help offset the weight. I went for a new one because it's my first time and I wanted to un-pack the box.... yea I know, I paid a premium for that privilege but heck it was 12%off ! I'm sure there will be a couple used lenses in my future. Now I can't wait for the FedEx guy to show up! Thanks to All Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 28, 2015 Share #26 Posted May 28, 2015 I appreciate you all pushing me over the edge....I knew you would. I was only concerned with the new model because I don't trade up too often and it would tick me off if next year my 240 was replaced with a 240 "lighter".....but it won't. This morning I ordered an M-P 240 w/50 and 35mm Summicron. I also got a ThumbsUp to help offset the weight. I went for a new one because it's my first time and I wanted to un-pack the box.... yea I know, I paid a premium for that privilege but heck it was 12%off ! I'm sure there will be a couple used lenses in my future. Now I can't wait for the FedEx guy to show up! Thanks to All Very sensible lens choice. You will sure have lots of fun. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 28, 2015 Share #27 Posted May 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) This morning I ordered an M-P 240 w/50 and 35mm Summicron. I also got a ThumbsUp to help offset the weight. I'm sure there will be a couple used lenses in my future. Congrats. I suggest that you first try using the camera 'naked' as it was designed, and stick to your 2 lenses for a good while until they become second nature…and you decide if you bond with the RF experience. GAS is easy….discipline is harder. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted May 28, 2015 Congrats. I suggest that you first try using the camera 'naked' as it was designed, and stick to your 2 lenses for a good while until they become second nature…and you decide if you bond with the RF experience. GAS is easy….discipline is harder. Jeff I welcome the Rangefinder experience. I took this plunge to leave Japanese cameras, their menus and features behind. I've hated them since my Nikon D1X of 2001 I'm 100% sure the 240 and I will be a perfect fit. Please all advice is appreciated and welcome. Excuse my ignorance.... What is "GAS" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 28, 2015 Share #29 Posted May 28, 2015 Seems odd to voice concern about weight then decide to stick a Thumbs Up on it! I've not handled the M but isn't the little thumb rest/control wheel on the rear meant to do the same thing anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #30 Posted May 28, 2015 Seems odd to voice concern about weight then decide to stick a Thumbs Up on it! I've not handled the M but isn't the little thumb rest/control wheel on the rear meant to do the same thing anyway? The weight concern was lugging it around all day. And would Leica's new model be lighter? I'm not as young as I used to be and I want photography to be a pleasure and not a chore. But you have all convinced me so I'm over the weight thing. However with the "ThumbsUp" the camera felt more balanced and almost lighter/easier to hold . But I don't own it yet....... this is 30 minutes in the store. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 29, 2015 Share #31 Posted May 29, 2015 Excuse my ignorance.... What is "GAS" ? Sorry….acronym for 'gear acquisition syndrome', a common affliction around these parts. Not everyone bonds with the RF experience…take your time. I've been doing it for several decades and 3 lenses have sufficed for the vast majority of my RF work, no more than 2 on a given day. You may take a different path, but no reason to even think about more gear at this point IMO (in my opinion…we like acronyms). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted May 29, 2015 Thanks Jeff, for the most part I am a one lens kind of guy, I choose the 35 and 50 because 90% of my photography can be done with these........and your right I'm feeling the GAS. New cameras are fun, once I take delivery my good sense will prevail. I am very much looking forward to what the camera brings to the table in the way of slowing you down to think, bringing photography back to its roots with a simple tool. I'm assuming on moving objects you zone focus and anticipate ? Anything else you can tell me to help me "bond" with the RF? I've been doing photography for over 40 years and I'm looking forward to slowing down and thinking I do appreciate your advice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 29, 2015 Share #33 Posted May 29, 2015 Collective wisdom…on the technical bits…already exists... http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/216580-leica-m8-m82-m9-m9p-mm-mtyp240-faqs-questions-with-answers/ After that, your path is the only one that matters. You'll know if the camera becomes an extension of your vision…or not. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted May 29, 2015 "Not everyone bonds with the RF experience…take your time." Thanks Jeff, after reviewing that that link yours is sound advice. EC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelbrenner Posted May 29, 2015 Share #35 Posted May 29, 2015 Leica bodies tend to hold their value pretty well, so worst case scenario is when the new one comes you just finance its purchase by selling your existing body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 29, 2015 Share #36 Posted May 29, 2015 Cnograts. Wise choices. The little bit of weight in the Leica helps me stabilize myself better than some piece of plastic. Not been at it long, but here goes. http://blog.leica-camera.com/photographers/interviews/louis-foubare-making-every-minute-count Louis Foubare: Fluidity and Unpredictability in Street Photography « The Leica Camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeeper Posted May 31, 2015 Share #37 Posted May 31, 2015 I did not dig the weight of my M240, but the CMOS and shutter upgrade made it worth it compared to an M9. (This is my first digital Leica.) Now: Compared to my M6 - The M240 is big and heavy. It is definitely not ideal. It is heavier than an M9 by a noticable amount. However, for the 1.5 stops of low light performance gain and the amazing shutter, I'm fine with it. Would I love a M6-sized digital Leica? Of course. But until then, I'm loving having my M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2015 Share #38 Posted May 31, 2015 Cnograts. Wise choices. The little bit of weight in the Leica helps me stabilize myself better than some piece of plastic. Not been at it long, but here goes. http://blog.leica-camera.com/photographers/interviews/louis-foubare-making-every-minute-count Louis Foubare: Fluidity and Unpredictability in Street Photography « The Leica Camera That is certainly true. Light bodies are suffer from motion blur and really need stabilization technology. And it is slighly strange when people complain about the weight and then start using a Noctilux, Summicron 90 AA or even a chrome Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 31, 2015 Share #39 Posted May 31, 2015 Pfft, Rabbitohs. West Tigers I say! Anyway. Just remember that Leica cameras, even digital ones, tend to hold value rather well. Meaning that you can upgrade and sell without losing a fortune. Leica M9's are still going for around $4000 second hand, that's a 6 year old digital camera. $4000? Here they go for € 2800, /€ 3000,- I wonder what the Dollar / Euro exchange rate became overnight. http://www.marktplaats.nl/z.html?query=m9+leica&postcode=5025PJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2015 Share #40 Posted May 31, 2015 Foto Professional? I would not even buy à roll of film there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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