dkCambridgeshire Posted May 28, 2015 Share #201 Posted May 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) So is it ... a development of the T? 'T' mount is sufficiently wide for FF lenses so if it's a new FF camera with 'T' mount its lenses would be compatible with 'T' … but those 'in the know' have previously denied possibility … However, could answer question as to why so few 'T' lenses e.g. no macro offering. If FF mirrorless would be 'R' compatible dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mornnb Posted May 28, 2015 Share #202 Posted May 28, 2015 'T' mount is sufficiently wide for FF lenses so if it's a new FF camera with 'T' mount its lenses would be compatible with 'T' … but those 'in the know' have previously denied possibility … However, could answer question as to why so few 'T' lenses e.g. no macro offering. If FF mirrorless would be 'R' compatible dunk The T mount is certainly able to support FF lenses, it has a wider diameter than Sony's E mount. And was clearly designed with future full frame capability in mind. But I think the market is more interested in a lower cost EVF M camera, than a T Mount full frame with autofocus zoom lenses. It's all about the excellent M lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2015 Share #203 Posted May 28, 2015 I wish you were right but young generations don't seem to be able to use a camera w/o autofocus so i would be surprised if a full frame T or other non-M camera is not in the pipeline soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted May 28, 2015 Share #204 Posted May 28, 2015 I wish you were right but young generations don't seem to be able to use a camera w/o autofocus The popularity of older vintage lenses and M lenses on the Sony A7 with 'younger generations' (of which I'm a part of) is an argument against this. People young and old want quality and compact optics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2015 Share #205 Posted May 28, 2015 The Sony A7 is an AF camera. To compete with the latter, if needed, Leica would have to sell an AF camera with AF lenses and a better compatibility with M lenses than the Sony's. Besides, M lenses don't need another system than the M's IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted May 28, 2015 Share #206 Posted May 28, 2015 'T' mount is sufficiently wide for FF lenses so if it's a new FF camera with 'T' mount its lenses would be compatible with 'T' … but those 'in the know' have previously denied possibility … However, could answer question as to why so few 'T' lenses e.g. no macro offering. If FF mirrorless would be 'R' compatible dunk I think you have a point about the "delay" of producing more prime T-lenses. This could indicate a new T-product, with possibly a higher (image-)quality or new focus system. This camera could then be accompanied with (the long awaited) faster prime T-lenses. Although I can't figure out the initial long term strategy of Leica with the T, if a new T-product will be announced already within a year. This could indicate slow sales of the first generation T and a (panic?) reaction to recent evolutions of the competition (A7II, future new Fuji X Pro-2). But it is not fitting Leica to react directly, with a change of strategy and new products, because of other products on the market . Or it would mean that the initial T has had the purpose of developing a new UI and design form. Then the next step in seeking a definitive new digital paradigm, in the short term, would be testing the waters with a fixed lens type, with a different (hybrid?) focus system and/or bigger sensor. This not to compete with the M at this moment. But changes will come in the line up of Leica camera's in the long run. The RF is priceless, at the moment, in terms of quality and the position of Leica in the camera market. But technical innovations will surpass it's quality and purpose eventually and then it is time for Leica to act accordingly with a new product line, if it wants to survive. All speculation of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 28, 2015 Share #207 Posted May 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The T mount is certainly able to support FF lenses, it has a wider diameter than Sony's E mount. And was clearly designed with future full frame capability in mind. But I think the market is more interested in a lower cost EVF M camera, than a T Mount full frame with autofocus zoom lenses. It's all about the excellent M lenses. I think a T mount camera with full frame sensor is technically unfeasible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelbrenner Posted May 28, 2015 Share #208 Posted May 28, 2015 Love the M 240 but would like to see the following top 3 improvements, in following order of priority: 1) Display should not light up when ISO is changed or when self-timer is used. 2) EVF view should not be blacked out when self-timer is used. 3) It would be convenient if ISO had it's own dial like shutter speed does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 28, 2015 Share #209 Posted May 28, 2015 I think a T mount camera with full frame sensor is technically unfeasible... Why? That's what many said about adapting the M8 chassis to a FF sensor … but Leica did it. The T mount has sufficiently wide diameter to utilise FF lenses. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted May 28, 2015 Share #210 Posted May 28, 2015 my guess: I see in my glass bowl that in 2 weeks time there will be a new Leica on the table. With a FF sensor (same as in the M240), fixed lens, 23mm f1.7 ASPH Summilux (same as in the X113 model). Not sure about the EVF, the picture is not clear enough that i can see it! Price around 4k John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted May 28, 2015 Share #211 Posted May 28, 2015 Make that 28 mm./1.7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2015 Share #212 Posted May 28, 2015 And sign John Lavida BTW a 28 on a fixed lens camera? Who would spend $4K on that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 28, 2015 Share #213 Posted May 28, 2015 And sign John Lavida BTW a 28 on a fixed lens camera? Who would spend $4K on that? Yes unlikely …BUT the GR1 film camera had a high quality 28mm lens and it sold well … as did its 21mm variant dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted May 28, 2015 Share #214 Posted May 28, 2015 M lenses don't need another system than the M's IMHO. Tautological. But it seems that M bodies cannot keep up with modern M lenses performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2015 Share #215 Posted May 28, 2015 Yes unlikely …BUT the GR1 film camera had a high quality 28mm lens and it sold well … as did its 21mm variant I rely on you as i have no experience with those bodies. I have only the GXR A12 which was not a success IINW. Nice little camera though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted May 28, 2015 Share #216 Posted May 28, 2015 I rely on you as i have no experience with those bodies. I have only the GXR A12 which was not a success IINW. Nice little camera though. The digital Ricoh GR has an fixed 28 mm. (18,3 mm.) equivalent, although with an APS-C sensor. There are rumors of a new version in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 28, 2015 Share #217 Posted May 28, 2015 I am surprised by the "silence" of Leicarumors... That site has not made their bi-weekly post yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted May 28, 2015 Share #218 Posted May 28, 2015 I am surprised by the "silence" of Leicarumors... There seems to be a bit of a thing going on between 'that person or persons' that is Leica Rumors and 'that person or persons' that is La Vida Leica. Apparently all about Leica's imminent wonder product. It's the nature of trying to make a living doing a blog when even a high school kid has as much connectivity and there's a limited number of 'inside sources'. I imagine they'll settle it at recess. s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted May 28, 2015 Share #219 Posted May 28, 2015 Love the M 240 but would like to see the following top 3 improvements, in following order of priority: 1) Display should not light up when ISO is changed or when self-timer is used. 2) EVF view should not be blacked out when self-timer is used. 3) It would be convenient if ISO had it's own dial like shutter speed does. I have different suggestions for improvements: 1. Allow exposures longer than 60 seconds, allow noise reduction to be turned off. (This is REALLY important for landscape photographers) 2. Sensor improvements (resolution, high iso noise) 3. Better EVF 4. A 0.85 magnification option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 28, 2015 Share #220 Posted May 28, 2015 Why? That's what many said about adapting the M8 chassis to a FF sensor … but Leica did it. The T mount has sufficiently wide diameter to utilise FF lenses. dunk Sorry... I wrote my post and then decided to remove (I realized that my opinion on T mount wasn't based on serious tech facts).. but with my surprised won't able to delete (a problem I hadn't yet adressed on the new forum : how can one delete his post ?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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