Peter Kilmister Posted June 1, 2015 Share #301 Posted June 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love a quiet shutter. My 1970s Nikon film camera made one hell of a clank when it took a picture. The huge attraction of a quiet shutter is that one can take candid shots which is my preferred style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rosuna Posted June 1, 2015 Share #302 Posted June 1, 2015 The Leica M is a great camera in many ways. I like the rangefinder, so the M is the best for that But the sensor is very good, the battery provides many shots, the shutter is mostly silent, the controls are clean and simple... etc. I even would be happy with less features... The key elements for me are viewfinder/rangefinder, sensor, shutter and battery... and all this is very good, state of the art (and a clear improvement compared to the M8/M9 generation). I tried the Sony 7 -first model- and I liked it but I don't care about AF and the shutter actuation was noisy. Sony had a beta version of an application -to be installed in the camera- for easy correction of vignetting and magenta shade of manual focus lenses. But I don't know if this app is ready and if it works. Anyway, wide angle Leica lenses are best on a Leica M camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted June 2, 2015 Share #303 Posted June 2, 2015 According to my dealer, Leica will release a full frame fixed lens camera on June 11th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 2, 2015 Share #304 Posted June 2, 2015 According to my dealer, Leica will release a full frame fixed lens camera on June 11th. There seems to be consensus in that view. The Sony Rx-1 was, by all accounts, a great camera. I'm not sure that releasing a competitor to that camera 32 months after it was brought to market will gain Leica a lot of new customers. I guess the technology of the Leica will also be almost three years old - let's see, average clip on EVF (same as for the M(240)); CMOSIS sensor; Summicron 35/2, but made of plastic in Japan; maybe a rangefinder (that will have everyone confused). The good news is that it won't threaten either my bank balance or my continued enjoyment of my Leica T. I'm ready to be underwhelmed. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 2, 2015 Share #305 Posted June 2, 2015 According to my dealer, Leica will release a full frame fixed lens camera on June 11th. If so, an odd move which I do not understand... an "upgrade" for X series owners ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 2, 2015 Share #306 Posted June 2, 2015 If so, an odd move which I do not understand... an "upgrade" for X series owners ? Strange "upgrade" if Leica really does think that there is a future in APS-C format. It leaves both the X cameras somewhat stranded ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share #307 Posted June 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not sure. It may be that Leica subscribes to the view, widely held, that APS is the equivalent of the 135 class of yesteryear, and full frame the equivalent of 645 cameras, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 2, 2015 Share #308 Posted June 2, 2015 Not sure. It may be that Leica subscribes to the view, widely held, that APS is the equivalent of the 135 class of yesteryear, and full frame the equivalent of 645 cameras, etc. You're very loyal, Jaap ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted June 2, 2015 Share #309 Posted June 2, 2015 The RX1 has been widely successful for Sony, there does appear to be demand for a tiny full frame fixed 35mm lens camera. However, whats really taken off is the Sony A7. People want an interchangeable lens full frame camera that's tiny. A full frame Leica T at a lower price point than the M is what Leica needs to increase market share. Not sure. It may be that Leica subscribes to the view, widely held, that APS is the equivalent of the 135 class of yesteryear, and full frame the equivalent of 645 cameras, etc. That's quite true, due to the generally greater resolution and lower noise of digital. This also means that digital has elevated the M to a true professional format in a compact camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted June 3, 2015 Share #310 Posted June 3, 2015 I'm curious what focal length this FF fixed lens camera will be. I'm guessing 28 or 35. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted June 3, 2015 Share #311 Posted June 3, 2015 To those who are already complaining about the price, it is instructive that the Sony RX1 is about $2800. I don't think it has an EVF. Surely, Leica will not compete on price (I don't think they ever have) so one must expect a Leica FF compact to come in at a price higher than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 3, 2015 Share #312 Posted June 3, 2015 I'm curious what focal length this FF fixed lens camera will be. I'm guessing 28 or 35. We're all guess about that and a lot more. La Vide Leica say it will be 28mm - that's a very interesting choice, if it's true. Speculating wildly, if it's a 28 Summicron, between f/2 and f/1.4, and the lens is optimised for the 24MP CMOSIS sensor, then it will potentially be a very special camera indeed. If it's packaged in the Leica T body, but with a built in hybrid optical/electronic viewfinder (still haven't really got my head around how that works) then I imagine it will be very attractive to people who (a) like that focal length, and ( want a camera that takes excellent pictures. For spec sheet readers, it will probably be a meh product, playing catchup with the Sony Rx-1R or A7, which will have more MP, more features and will be cheaper. A fixed lens package (28mm) will be interesting if the user interface is cool and intuitive, it has to be said - the view finder is going to be a challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 3, 2015 Share #313 Posted June 3, 2015 28mm FF would be perfect if it's a 'shift lens' … an architect's tool camera. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 3, 2015 Share #314 Posted June 3, 2015 28mm FF would be perfect if it's a 'shift lens' … an architect's tool camera. dunk Well... interesting and no trivial hipotesis... probably a shift 28 with f2 aperture is quite a difficult design but it would be an unicum even if it would be 2,8/3,5... not of my interest, but could have a sense and a special market of its own... Of course, shift capability does demand an EVF (or a LCD with facilities for a good view ?)thus making it a complex and costly design... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted June 3, 2015 Share #315 Posted June 3, 2015 The lens itself would do nicely for me, thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 3, 2015 Share #316 Posted June 3, 2015 Would the 'fixed lens' have a leaf shutter? - Thus maybe reducing risk of soiling the sensor with dust from a focal plane shutter? Or maybe it could have an electronic shutter? A new CMOS sensor might include a sophisticated electronic shutter? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergist Posted June 3, 2015 Share #317 Posted June 3, 2015 Full frame, fixed lens zoom is my guess. Making it unique (I think) Built in EVF and it would go straight on my wish list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted June 3, 2015 Share #318 Posted June 3, 2015 Full frame, fixed lens zoom is my guess. Making it unique (I think) Built in EVF and it would go straight on my wish list. Too big & Leica caught a cold with XV zoom dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 3, 2015 Share #319 Posted June 3, 2015 Full frame, fixed lens zoom is my guess. Making it unique (I think) Built in EVF and it would go straight on my wish list. Hum... the XVario casts a certain mood on this platform... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 3, 2015 Share #320 Posted June 3, 2015 I wish i were wrong but i don't see how a 28/1.7 lens + a built-in EVF could be stuffed in a compact FF camera. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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