bocaburger Posted January 8, 2015 Share #21 Posted January 8, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I too used the supplied Leica straps for many years but I have three niggles with them. One very minor one is I find the plastic snap attachments unncessarily bulky, but in fairness they have been quite secure. The second is that they hold the strap just loose enough that after I wrap the strap around the camera in the bag, when I remove the camera the nylon has slipped in the attachment so the camera doesn't hang at the bottom of the loop, but it isn't loose enough to slip back by gravity, I have to pull it. And the third is if I'm wearing a t-shirt the pad nubs chafe my neck (although they are the most secure of any for shoulder carry...though that's not how I carry a camera). Some years ago I switched to the Voigtlander cloth straps (now sold as A&A) and they are for me the perfect length. I've xfered the same strap from M7 to MP to M8 to M9 and now M240 and they have not shown any signs of wear at all. They don't really have a pad per-se but the underside middle is a softer velvet-like material that is comfortable against my bare neck. They don't hold well on the shoulder though, but as I said I don't use them that way. With the Leica case on the M240 I had to cut off the leather protector fobs, but the leather end pieces keep the split rings from contacting the plastic rub protectors anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted January 8, 2015 Share #22 Posted January 8, 2015 I use one of Steve's Thumbie's and the grip on the M240. I also use the Thumbie and a grip on my M4 , M8 and M9. I have rubbish hands and it means I can still use any of these cameras with lenses up to as heavy as a Noctilux single handled. If you have a stable holding hand, it makes accurate focusing with your left hand easier. I don't like the Thumbs Up because it occupies the shoe, so I cannot use either a flash or the EVF. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinchohs Posted January 10, 2015 Share #23 Posted January 10, 2015 Personally I find the thumbs-up extremely comfortable. I feel it's a fundamental accessories of all the digital Ms I've had. I've had the grip on a few times at the store and did not do it for me. Bulky and not as comfortable. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 10, 2015 Share #24 Posted January 10, 2015 New M240 owner here. I have small hands and would like a better grip on my M. Wondering which is best - Thumbs Up, grip or both? I think if I went Thumbs Up I would eventually run across a M240 w/grip and think I should have gone that route instead. Or vice-versa Any feed back, especially someone who uses both would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. My advice is to use none of them. If you put your left hand under the camera in the right way, I don't need it. How to Hold a Camera - Digital Photography School If you hold it like this already, I'am sorry, then you need a thumbs up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnK Posted January 11, 2015 Share #25 Posted January 11, 2015 I use RRS thumb grip, excellent quality & quite comfortable to boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted January 12, 2015 Share #26 Posted January 12, 2015 Why would you use the thumbsup on an M4P ?The thumbsup is supposed to mimic the film lever being left "out" as a thumbrest I would assume, after having talked to Leica representative in their Berlin store, that that is not recommended; he said with uneven pressure constantly on the lever the bearings will suffer, no matter how sturdy. perhaps it was a sales-pitch, but I would expect more from Leica. he recommended the thumb-up for me M4-P as well. also, it is more pronounced than the lever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted January 12, 2015 Share #27 Posted January 12, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would assume, after having talked to Leica representative in their Berlin store, that that is not recommended; he said with uneven pressure constantly on the lever the bearings will suffer, no matter how sturdy. perhaps it was a sales-pitch, but I would expect more from Leica. he recommended the thumb-up for me M4-P as well. also, it is more pronounced than the lever. fair enough - i would have thought he Thumbsup would get in the way (i am also surprised at the Leica rep's comments, i have always done it (not with a Leica though, but the Pentax ME super i learned to shoot with) and many at work used to do the same with their company issued Nikons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted January 13, 2015 Share #28 Posted January 13, 2015 fair enough - i would have thought he Thumbsup would get in the way (i am also surprised at the Leica rep's comments, i have always done it (not with a Leica though, but the Pentax ME super i learned to shoot with) and many at work used to do the same with their company issued Nikons I can only relate what he said. he seemed earnest enough and I wouldn't expect them to pull a fast one to sell me a €90 part in a store filled to the brim with €8000 cameras and lenses. the grip does get in the way _slightly_ of the lever, no arguing about that, but the extra grip it provides and the ease of mind knowing I'm not potentially damaging the mechanism, makes it well worth it. I seldom 'spray' away when I shoot, but opt for composed singles on each subject and always keep the shutter loaded for the next one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted January 14, 2015 Share #29 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm still trying to break the habit of how I gripped SLRs when I use my M. I have a bad habit of putting my finger right onto the viewfinder glass because of it. I'm getting better at remembering to hold the camera differently, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted January 14, 2015 Share #30 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm still trying to break the habit of how I gripped SLRs when I use my M. I have a bad habit of putting my finger right onto the viewfinder glass because of it. I'm getting better at remembering to hold the camera differently, though. glad im not the only one. actually i only really do it when i am picking the camera up or putting it down, but it leaves fingerprints on the windows, which affects the clarity of the VF, which in turn affects focus accuracy and speed. my wife had real trouble focusing my M, until i watched as she tried to focus on me one day, and had her finger 3/4 blocking the window - she has no trouble now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted January 15, 2015 Share #31 Posted January 15, 2015 I'm still trying to break the habit of how I gripped SLRs when I use my M. I have a bad habit of putting my finger right onto the viewfinder glass because of it. I'm getting better at remembering to hold the camera differently, though. wow, how does being used to holding a dslr make you do that? do you use live-view all the time holding it like this; if not, the left hand usually goes on the lens, just like with an M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted January 15, 2015 Share #32 Posted January 15, 2015 wow, how does being used to holding a dslr make you do that? do you use live-view all the time holding it like this; if not, the left hand usually goes on the lens, just like with an M. I never use live view. It's just a very old habit of how I would hold my DSLRs "at the ready" - not raised up but waiting for the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodluvan Posted January 15, 2015 Share #33 Posted January 15, 2015 I never use live view. It's just a very old habit of how I would hold my DSLRs "at the ready" - not raised up but waiting for the moment. Ok, at ready I hold the lens with my left hand as well, to really be ready, or just dangling in my right at semi-ready Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1945 Posted January 15, 2015 Share #34 Posted January 15, 2015 I tried the RRS L bracket with the grip, and although I found it more *secure* than holding it without it, I did not like the extra "girth" or bloat. I liked the ease of removing the bottom plate over the Leica bottom plate which I find ridiculous. But the Arca type rails were a negative because I don't have an Arca head on my tripods. I ended up selling it on ebay. I ordered the Thumbs Up accessory and installed it even though I had to remove and store the EVF... I think the thumb grip does really help to hold the camera. Congratulations to all the folks who have the dexterity and strength to handle the M240 body easily and securely without either attachment, but for me the camera never feels as easy to hold and secure without the grip or thumb grip as it does with it. Oh yeah, and as expensive as the Luigi bottom plates are, I am sorely tempted to order one. Having to remove the bottom plate each time to remove/install the SD card or the battery is completely ridiculous. Especially in such an expensive camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted January 15, 2015 Share #35 Posted January 15, 2015 For the folks that think the M should be used naked - you obviously have no arthritis, no bad vision, no small hands and you must have the strength of Hercules I think it should be possible to use it naked, but Leica made the thumb grip too slippery or not steep enough inclined so that it is actual useless and a burden now. They should have covered it with some rubber for more grip, which would have enabled us to hold grip up to 75mm lenses without extra's. Oh and sorry, but the ThumbsUp in combi with the M240's own thumbsupport? How ugly! I'd rather go for some Luigi solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15, 2015 Share #36 Posted January 15, 2015 For the folks that think the M should be used naked - you obviously have no arthritis, no bad vision, no small hands and you must have the strength of Hercules. We must have met - this describes me down to a T. Did I mention that I am as handsome as David Niven in his prime too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1945 Posted January 16, 2015 Share #37 Posted January 16, 2015 I think it should be possible to use it naked, but Leica made the thumb grip too slippery or not steep enough inclined so that it is actual useless and a burden now. They should have covered it with some rubber for more grip, which would have enabled us to hold grip up to 75mm lenses without extra's. Oh and sorry, but the ThumbsUp in combi with the M240's own thumbsupport? How ugly! I'd rather go for some Luigi solution No Luigi solution that I could find other than the half cases with the grip bump.... Nice looking but make the mandatory bottom plate removal even more difficult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 16, 2015 Share #38 Posted January 16, 2015 No Luigi solution that I could find other than the half cases with the grip bump.... Nice looking but make the mandatory bottom plate removal even more difficult Not necessarily....... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/239538-noob-question-thumbs-up-m240-grip-or-both/?do=findComment&comment=2747849'>More sharing options...
dant Posted January 17, 2015 Share #39 Posted January 17, 2015 New M240 owner here. I have small hands and would like a better grip on my M. Wondering which is best - Thumbs Up, grip or both? I think if I went Thumbs Up I would eventually run across a M240 w/grip and think I should have gone that route instead. Or vice-versa Any feed back, especially someone who uses both would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. I tried them both. Neither is needed...Leica is perfect as is. Those things are for camera fondlers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 18, 2015 Share #40 Posted January 18, 2015 I tried them both. Neither is needed...Leica is perfect as is. Those things are for camera fondlers. ....or those with bad hands but better manners. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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