luigi bertolotti Posted September 25, 2014 Share #41 Posted September 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can add that experienced ONE freeze playing confusely with EVF and "view" buttons one of the first times I used it... as far as I remember, happened more than one time only that I took 32s exposures with M8 and lens cap on... (an error that hasn't yet occurred to me with M240... but it will happen, some day... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Hi luigi bertolotti, Take a look here No freezes with the M-P, design failure of m240?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
thighslapper Posted September 25, 2014 Share #42 Posted September 25, 2014 Yes but it was in summer 2013 if i'm not wrong, or am i? Yes ...... and this was the heat related EVF debacle which Leica acknowledged and addressed in firmware ...... and you are correct ...... none of us beta testing had any of the lock-ups of the sort that were mentioned on this thread .... and most of us deliberately tried as many combinations of circumstances and settings as possible ..... so the problem ..... if it not user related ..... must be relatively rare for the majority of cameras and users ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihlén Posted September 25, 2014 Share #43 Posted September 25, 2014 I've had my M240 for about 4 months now and i have experienced about 4 freezes during that period 3 after upgrading the firmware and 2 of those times after changing lens (yes I power of in between). It's not something to sell the gear for but it's very annoying when it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bephoto Posted September 26, 2014 Share #44 Posted September 26, 2014 M user and abuser speaking never had any freezes since sept 2013 when I bought my first m240, just got a new one not sure though but for now is fine. had freeze with a 8gb old lexar after shooting on C mode 8 frames DNGs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 26, 2014 Share #45 Posted September 26, 2014 Yes ...... and this was the heat related EVF debacle which Leica acknowledged and addressed in firmware ...... and you are correct ...... none of us beta testing had any of the lock-ups of the sort that were mentioned on this thread .... and most of us deliberately tried as many combinations of circumstances and settings as possible ..... so the problem ..... if it not user related ..... must be relatively rare for the majority of cameras and users ... I guess so as well. Rick's experience referred to by Algrove above occured in summer 2013 while we've been working on FU 2.0.1.5 in June 2014 for the purpose, among others, of checking if the lock-up problem was fixed by Leica. We were quite happy by the results then and, as far as my M240 is concerned, i still feel the same at present. I don't play to run out of buffer space on purpose though and i wonder if some of our good colleagues don't take the M for a "Kalach-Nikon" from this viewpoint... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted September 26, 2014 Share #46 Posted September 26, 2014 I have had my M240 for a few months now and use it quite often with live view, evf and recently have been taking multiple images in quick succession and thus filling the buffer, taken bottom plate off without powering down, use a 64gb SD card etc etc... and no lockup to date (touch wood). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 26, 2014 Share #47 Posted September 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I guess so as well. Rick's experience referred to by Algrove above occured in summer 2013 while we've been working on FU 2.0.1.5 in June 2014 for the purpose, among others, of checking if the lock-up problem was fixed by Leica. We were quite happy by the results then and, as far as my M240 is concerned, i still feel the same at present. I don't play to run out of buffer space on purpose though and i wonder if some of our good colleagues don't take the M for a "Kalach-Nikon" from this viewpoint... . You got that right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 26, 2014 Share #48 Posted September 26, 2014 i wonder if some of our good colleagues don't take the M for a "Kalach-Nikon" from this viewpoint... . What do you mean by that comment? If you mean taking panorama shots and bracketing manually one or two exposure variations, then I do that from time to time during sunrise and sunset shooting. But that should not mean I shoot like I own a "Kalach-Nikon" -whatever that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 26, 2014 Share #49 Posted September 26, 2014 Just an awful pun with Kalashnikov sorry, nothing personal of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 26, 2014 Share #50 Posted September 26, 2014 Just an awful pun with Kalashnikov sorry, nothing personal of course. Nothing awful about it. Using a rangefinder for holding the shutter button down and hoping to get one or two useable photos out of a couple dozen is a style best left to other choices in cameras. In my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted September 26, 2014 Share #51 Posted September 26, 2014 I don't understand parts if the discussion. I am an physicist and use cameras since 40 years. I don't fill the buffer - I use cards like Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s - I have the second M240 - newest FW and I have freezes. All with EVF/LV in use. So for me it is a real problem. I love the M240, but this us the only point I don't like ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 26, 2014 Share #52 Posted September 26, 2014 I don't understand parts if the discussion. I am an physicist and use cameras since 40 years. I don't fill the buffer - I use cards like Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s - I have the second M240 - newest FW and I have freezes. All with EVF/LV in use. So for me it is a real problem. I love the M240, but this us the only point I don't like ... +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, +1, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 26, 2014 Share #53 Posted September 26, 2014 Sorry folks but i don't understand either. If i had a faulty sample i would send it in immediately. How many complainers did return their camera since July 2014, i.e. after 2.0.1.5 firmware update, and what happened exactly afterwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted September 27, 2014 Share #54 Posted September 27, 2014 Shooting both single and continuous , both with and without EVF, both auto preview on and off, both cold and hot conditions and not a single freeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted September 27, 2014 Share #55 Posted September 27, 2014 Sorry folks but i don't understand either. If i had a faulty sample i would send it in immediately. How many complainers did return their camera since July 2014, i.e. after 2.0.1.5 firmware update, and what happened exactly afterwards? For me ut looks more like a systematic problem, because I had it with two different M240 and other users are reporting similar problems. I'm in a dicussion with Leica about this problem and I will return the Camera if there is a chance that they can solve the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 27, 2014 Share #56 Posted September 27, 2014 For me ut looks more like a systematic problem, because I had it with two different M240 and other users are reporting similar problems. I'm in a dicussion with Leica about this problem and I will return the Camera if there is a chance that they can solve the problem. So then in your discussions does Leica acknowledge that there is a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted September 27, 2014 Share #57 Posted September 27, 2014 @Berlinman Try high-quality SD-cards (although it's more likely a compatibility issue) like a Toshiba Exceria Type 2 32GB). I use it since several months with current firmware and LV - no crashes (although I don't have the EVF). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2014 Share #58 Posted September 27, 2014 For me ut looks more like a systematic problem, because I had it with two different M240 and other users are reporting similar problems. I'm in a dicussion with Leica about this problem and I will return the Camera if there is a chance that they can solve the problem. May i ask if the problems you're referring to occured after the 2.0.1.5 firmware update i.e. in July 2014 or after? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 27, 2014 Share #59 Posted September 27, 2014 Berlinman I second K-H's questiuon. This is a very importsnt point to me if Leica acknowledges that there is a lockup/freeze issue going on with even post .15 FW updated M240's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted September 27, 2014 Share #60 Posted September 27, 2014 Yes, I have the problem with the new M240 and the 2.0.1.5 FW. @georg: why ist the Toshiba card a higher quality compared to the Sandisc Extreme Pro or is it only a question of speed with the Exeria Pro 269 MB/s ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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