Stevez4 Posted August 23, 2014 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is it Poland or Germany or China? They have made a point of removing the note German made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 Hi Stevez4, Take a look here where is the new M-P actually made?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mjh Posted August 23, 2014 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2014 Portugal and Germany, same as all the other M models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 23, 2014 Share #3 Posted August 23, 2014 They have made a point of removing the note German made What do you mean? The M 240 is clearly engraved with Made in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted August 23, 2014 Share #4 Posted August 23, 2014 What do you mean? The M 240 is clearly engraved with Made in Germany. Title of his thread is: "Where is the new M-P actually made?" It appears the M-P is engraved with only "Wetzlar Germany" and not "Made in Germany" which is the way the M240 is engraved. I'm assuming he was concerned as to its actual origin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevez4 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted August 24, 2014 Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted August 25, 2014 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2014 Sounds like a missed opportunity, Leica could have asked a Nippon manufacturer to make 10,000 with a specification of 1 in 10,000 failure rate. The highly reliable Nippon manufacturers would then proceed to deliver 10,001 units,... The 10,000 as requested to sell, and the one faulty unit......as specified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted August 26, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Title of his thread is: "Where is the new M-P actually made?" It appears the M-P is engraved with only "Wetzlar Germany" and not "Made in Germany" which is the way the M240 is engraved. I'm assuming he was concerned as to its actual origin. Which is a fair question given the pictures, since Cosina marked its Voigtlander Bessa line of rangefinders "Voigtlander Germany Since 1756" when all of the cameras were assembled in Japan. Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted August 26, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 26, 2014 Why would Leica build a new facility in Wetzlar and then NOT produce the MP there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 26, 2014 Share #9 Posted August 26, 2014 Why would Leica build a new facility in Wetzlar and then NOT produce the MP there. Because Germans are expensive. Portugese, less so. Since final assembly and quality control in in Germany I'm sure it's happily German made. Or do we need to woory about where the brass was mined and the diodes produced. The sensor is from Belgium. Maybe we should list that? Leica are using the new tag to show off that they're back in Wetzlar. A little nicety for the new owners to see on their camera. They're proud of their new digs and want us to know it. Sounds a bit more up market than "made in". Nothing more. Nothing less. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted August 27, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 27, 2014 Which is a fair question given the pictures, since Cosina marked its Voigtlander Bessa line of rangefinders "Voigtlander Germany Since 1756" when all of the cameras were assembled in Japan. Dante EU fairy dust. s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted August 27, 2014 Share #11 Posted August 27, 2014 Years ago the Japanese renamed one of their big manufacturing cities USA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted August 27, 2014 Share #12 Posted August 27, 2014 Personally I've found that the people who are most concerned with were Leica actually manufacture their goods are less likely to actually buy anything new from the said company. It's about the culture of the company concerned more than anything else and that culture is exported as needed IF you want a Nikon or Canon then go a buy one but even these manufacturing giants have their issues. What they don't have an never will is that Leica attitude about owning the best. And, Thank god the Germans have some classy arrogance left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffry Abt Posted August 27, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 27, 2014 Leica are using the new tag to show off that they're back in Wetzlar. A little nicety for the new owners to see on their camera. They're proud of their new digs and want us to know it....Nothing more. Nothing less. The truth of the matter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted August 27, 2014 Share #14 Posted August 27, 2014 Made, built, assembled, component sourced, manufactured, produced, etc.. Define which bit bothers you;). In today's global situation I doubt that many 'complex' items are actually totally sourced and then fully built and completed in one country. So any 'made in .....' has to have some degree of compromise within it. This is probably true of Japanese manufacturers who also outsource so is 'made in Japan' acceptable either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 27, 2014 Share #15 Posted August 27, 2014 I thought it was made at the North Pole in the slow summer season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted August 27, 2014 Share #16 Posted August 27, 2014 As with Apple Designed in Cupertino-Made in China, Leica no doubt designed M product in Germany and makes them either in Germany and Portugal or both as many surmise. What matters to me is that they stand behind what they make and service it accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted August 27, 2014 Share #17 Posted August 27, 2014 True, but Cosina marks them on the bottom with "Made In Japan," though less prominently. I'm sure the M-P has a similar marking (like the M 240 IIRC, though I don't have mine w/me at the moment), as is required by US law (& analogous laws in the rest of the world). Which is a fair question given the pictures, since Cosina marked its Voigtlander Bessa line of rangefinders "Voigtlander Germany Since 1756" when all of the cameras were assembled in Japan. Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 27, 2014 Share #18 Posted August 27, 2014 What about "Designed and optimized in Germany" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 28, 2014 Share #19 Posted August 28, 2014 Hello Everybody, Whether we are writing about cameras, olive oil or anything else: Different Countries have different rules as to what percentage or portion of "something" needs to be manufactured or produced there to qualify that "something" to be marked "made in" that Country. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted August 28, 2014 Share #20 Posted August 28, 2014 I thought M-P meant Portugal. Down the road maybe we might well see a M-J or M-C. I would still prefer the M-D version though. Of course with the finder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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