MarkP Posted March 13, 2014 Share #61 Posted March 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, I would upgrade. I can't get enough of these megapixels and whatnots. Anytime I see something at the store that has faster MHz or more pixels, I have to buy it. I don't know what it means, but the Sony A7r has like 36 of these things and I want to have it. I don't understand why we can't have more of these pixels in the Leica... they have a cell phone out there with 40 of these mega-whatnots in it and I would be willing to pay anything to have more than a cell phone. Seems silly to me that I can't have a Leica that is better than a cellphone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lenicolas Posted March 13, 2014 Share #62 Posted March 13, 2014 I heard you can shoot multiple frames and then stich them together to achieve even more megapixies. That's how I'm always gonna shoot my M! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted March 13, 2014 Share #63 Posted March 13, 2014 Stop chasing pixels after 24. Perhaps even less. My M9P seems to offer all I want. I have reflex cameras and a viso + all the lenses for close and tele work. I still consider my M8 a decent camera I kept 5 R lenses plus 400 & 560. They adapt to Nikon. I love my Leica lenses which is why I put up with digital M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 13, 2014 Share #64 Posted March 13, 2014 I heard you can shoot multiple frames and then stitch them together to achieve even more megapixies.That's how I'm always gonna shoot my M! Lenicolas - I'm pretty sure this can't be done and I know that Leica doesn't have this technology yet... there is no menu setting for "stitch." Besides, you would still have the same amount of megapixels in each frame so, I don't really understand how this makes any sense at all. Leica, please upgrade the new M to at least 30 of these megapixels. 24 of them is so lame in this day and age of 100% crop programs like LR. From what I can tell reading the forum, I believe most of us use at least 100% crop to view our pictures now days. These new programs really make the Leica look bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 13, 2014 Share #65 Posted March 13, 2014 We also would like a version encrusted in Swarovski Crystal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted March 13, 2014 Share #66 Posted March 13, 2014 You're killing me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 13, 2014 Share #67 Posted March 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Would many of the current range of Leica lenses resolve to 36MP, right to the corners? Other than a few like the 50ASPH Summilux and 50APO, I would doubt it. A recent test of the Nikon primes lenses, while not quite to the standard of Leica lenses, are reasonably respected, were shown only to resolve to between 16 and 19MP. There are things I would be far more interested than more Megopixels. Higher usable ISO always comes in handy. A hybrid viewfinder, so I did not have an excrescence sitting on the top shoe would be nice. The ergonomics of buttons and the menu system could be improved. The M9 menus are easier to read than the M240 ones. However before all that, the M240 needs sorting out and some of the firmware problems curing. Get your current product right before going on to a new one would be my advice. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted March 13, 2014 Share #68 Posted March 13, 2014 . . . However before all that, the M240 needs sorting out and some of the firmware problems curing. Get your current product right before going on to a new one would be my advice. Wilson Indeed. The M is a fine camera and will be even better once the bugs are fixed. Long overdue. 10 months post release-2013 gone, January 2014 gone, February 2014 gone, almost half of March 2014 gone. Hello . . . . ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 13, 2014 Share #69 Posted March 13, 2014 Would many of the current range of Leica lenses resolve to 36MP, right to the corners? Other than a few like the 50ASPH Summilux and 50APO, I would doubt it. Wilson It doesn't really matter, Wilson. Nor the lens nor the MPs are a limiting factor. A better lens will produce better results on the same sensor, and a better sensor will produce better results on the same lens. It is not either-or, bur synergy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPB Posted March 13, 2014 Share #70 Posted March 13, 2014 It doesn't really matter, Wilson. Nor the lens nor the MPs are a limiting factor. A better lens will produce better results on the same sensor, and a better sensor will produce better results on the same lens. It is not either-or, bur synergy. +1 I for one would be interested in improved tonal transition and better capture of finest detail. Not so in just printing larger. And further, I have been told by a Leica staff member that all future lenses should be up to the specs of the Apo 50. That lens is not in any aspect challenged by the M9 or M sensor. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 13, 2014 Share #71 Posted March 13, 2014 It doesn't really matter, Wilson. Nor the lens nor the MPs are a limiting factor. A better lens will produce better results on the same sensor, and a better sensor will produce better results on the same lens. It is not either-or, bur synergy. Not 100% convinced about that. The exact science is way beyond what I did as optics at university but I think it is something to do with line pairs/mm against Nyquist limit. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 13, 2014 Share #72 Posted March 13, 2014 ... From the narrative here among M240 owners, the Canon does seem to be superior to the M240. Perhaps those Leica narratives are misleading. I am fortunate to own both a Canon 5D MkII and a Leica M (Typ 240); they are essentially different cameras and don't easily lend themselves to comparison. I do not think the 5D2 is better than the M and the fact that my 5D2 has not left the house in the 9 months that I have owned the M underlines this (and this includes using lenses with my M that I had previously only used with my 5D2). Would I upgrade purely for more mega-dubries? In the words of the esteemed Pico: "Hell no.". Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 13, 2014 Share #73 Posted March 13, 2014 Not 100% convinced about that. The exact science is way beyond what I did as optics at university but I think it is something to do with line pairs/mm against Nyquist limit. Maybe you can start a debate with 01af on the topic. This has been discussed (as with most issues it seems) many times here over the years. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 13, 2014 Share #74 Posted March 13, 2014 Maybe you can start a debate with 01af on the topic. This has been discussed (as with most issues it seems) many times here over the years. Jeff aaaaarghhhhh :eek: Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 13, 2014 Share #75 Posted March 13, 2014 I shall upgrade only for a camera with a good EVF in the body, not outside , if it doesn't come from Leica I shall sell all my Leica gear a 36 mp is a nonsense with a range finder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 13, 2014 Share #76 Posted March 13, 2014 I shall upgrade only for a camera with a good EVF in the body, not outside , if it doesn't come from Leica I shall sell all my Leica gear a 36 mp is a nonsense with a range finder Just shows how different we can all be. I want one of these new 4K televisions, I can't get enough of these sorts of things... I go in the store and the salesman tells me my old HD television is out-dated and man was he right. My old set is only 2K and the 4K new stuff has a lot more pixels. It has something to do with the area of the screen is like double the numbers as you get a bigger television... there is some complicated math involved about the square of the diagonal over some number times a constant, something like that. Anyway, my Leica M seems to have less megapixels than some of the new cameras and I want to have the best because, I want to show my pictures on this new television using LR and I am shooting for 1000 percent crop factor with the new software in the LR program. I don't want to be embarrassed when my friends come over and the picture is all blurry because, the Leica M is not keeping up with the technology that is out there. This is where Sony really shines. I lurk now on the Sony thread over in the Digital sub-forum and I just can't get enough of those 100% crops they are posting. That is uber-photography. Some guys over there are even going bigger than 100% crop with that camera and posting incredible crops of tiny parts of pictures (that are pretty crappy to begin with), but the LR program is able to zoom in and make very impressive detail. I understand that we all have different ideas of what good photography is, different horses, but when I can waste hours looking at tiny crops of crappy pictures I've taken and waste my whole miserable life in front of the computer, that is what photography is all about, for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted March 13, 2014 Share #77 Posted March 13, 2014 I need more megapixies for my new phone.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsLArefSOw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 13, 2014 Share #78 Posted March 13, 2014 I would buy the M if it had an EVF similar to the Olympus VF-4 built in, not as an add-on. I hate the add-on. 24 mPix is fine. And a diopter, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 13, 2014 Share #79 Posted March 13, 2014 I would buy the M if it had an EVF similar to the Olympus VF-4 built in, not as an add-on. I hate the add-on. 24 mPix is fine. And a diopter, please. we are 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 13, 2014 Share #80 Posted March 13, 2014 I kept the M8, bypassed the M9 and am very happy with the M.And do not plan to buy the next model. Maybe the one after. If there is a GOOD reason. DITTO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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