jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #381 Posted June 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I certainly see use for the M9 implementation, in my case it would be quite useful for long lenses which one wants to shoot at a fast shutterspeed and obviously fixed aperture. However having a fully manual mode to drop into for difficult light is also a preferred mode of shooting. Manual should be manual and Auto ISO should be one of the automatic modes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Auto iso coming.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
drdannn Posted June 18, 2014 Share #382 Posted June 18, 2014 I certainly see use for the M9 implementation, in my case it would be quite useful for long lenses which one wants to shoot at a fast shutterspeed and obviously fixed aperture.However having a fully manual mode to drop into for difficult light is also a preferred mode of shooting. Manual should be manual and Auto ISO should be one of the automatic modes. Hi, I agree about long lenses and the necessity of fast shutter speeds in that instance. But if, as you say, Auto ISO should be in an automatic mode, then it would be impossible to choose your fast shutter speed. I know you know that is how the 240 is presently implemented, and it is frustrating if when I am in a nightclub shooting under varying degrees of strobe lighting and the rapid intensity thereof, it is impossible to turn the shutter speed dial and catch up with split second lighting changes. Enlighten me if you know a better way. Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted June 18, 2014 Share #383 Posted June 18, 2014 I know you know that is how the 240 is presently implemented, and it is frustrating if when I am in a nightclub shooting under varying degrees of strobe lighting and the rapid intensity thereof, it is impossible to turn the shutter speed dial and catch up with split second lighting changes. Just select the desired shutter speed and adjust for the changing lighting levels in the raw converter. The results will be superior to those you would get with auto ISO in manual mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #384 Posted June 18, 2014 Hi, I agree about long lenses and the necessity of fast shutter speeds in that instance. But if, as you say, Auto ISO should be in an automatic mode, then it would be impossible to choose your fast shutter speed. I know you know that is how the 240 is presently implemented, and it is frustrating if when I am in a nightclub shooting under varying degrees of strobe lighting and the rapid intensity thereof, it is impossible to turn the shutter speed dial and catch up with split second lighting changes. Enlighten me if you know a better way. Dan No, manual = nothing auto, AE is vary shutterspeed automatically, ISO manual, AI = vary ISO, shutterspeed manual.Two auto modes, one manual.Maybe add everything auto as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted June 18, 2014 Share #385 Posted June 18, 2014 No, manual = nothing auto, AE is vary shutterspeed automatically, ISO manual, AI = vary ISO, shutterspeed manual.Two auto modes, one manual.Maybe add everything auto as well. This only makes sense for users who regard the dial on top of the camera as a mode dial. For me it is a shutter speed dial and it has no business overriding my ISO settings. Two dials: One for shutter speed and one for ISO. Each with its own Auto setting. Simple and intuitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #386 Posted June 18, 2014 Indeed, I see Auto ISO as overriding a purely manual camera. But just wait a little while more, Leica will make most if not all users happy.However, I somehow doubt that firmware will cause an extra dial to sprout.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted June 18, 2014 Share #387 Posted June 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hope it's in the new firmware for those who want it, but honestly, it's so quick and easy to change ISO manually. I mainly use cameras in full manual mode precisely because I prefer the camera doesn't change settings for me. What I would really like is to be able to disable the Movie mode and LV buttons or at least reassign them to something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #388 Posted June 18, 2014 Hi, I agree about long lenses and the necessity of fast shutter speeds in that instance. But if, as you say, Auto ISO should be in an automatic mode, then it would be impossible to choose your fast shutter speed. I know you know that is how the 240 is presently implemented, and it is frustrating if when I am in a nightclub shooting under varying degrees of strobe lighting and the rapid intensity thereof, it is impossible to turn the shutter speed dial and catch up with split second lighting changes. Enlighten me if you know a better way. Dan Btw, I did not say that AI should be in an automatic mode, but I said should be an automatic mode (in itself) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #389 Posted June 18, 2014 I hope it's in the new firmware for those who want it, but honestly, it's so quick and easy to change ISO manually. I mainly use cameras in full manual mode precisely because I prefer the camera doesn't change settings for me. What I would really like is to be able to disable the Movie mode and LV buttons or at least reassign them to something else. I don't really see a need to disable the LV button. Hitting the movie buton accidentally will cause you to lose shots. Hitting the LV button does nothing to the functioning of the camera except possibly change the metering mode, and the flashing up of the screen is just a minor annoyance. OTOH being able to activate LV quickly can get you a shot you would otherwise have missed, like holding the camera through a fence, or to one side to clear an obstruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted June 19, 2014 Share #390 Posted June 19, 2014 I was thinking the flashing up of the screen could be more than a minor annoyance, for example in a theater or concert hall where I snuck the camera in against policy and everyone behind me including the ushers would see it light up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 19, 2014 Share #391 Posted June 19, 2014 Just select the desired shutter speed and adjust for the changing lighting levels in the raw converter. The results will be superior to those you would get with auto ISO in manual mode. Michael - This is such a simple, elegant and retrospectively obvious observation... brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 19, 2014 Share #392 Posted June 19, 2014 Pure manual mode then no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 19, 2014 Share #393 Posted June 19, 2014 I was thinking the flashing up of the screen could be more than a minor annoyance, for example in a theater or concert hall where I snuck the camera in against policy and everyone behind me including the ushers would see it light up So keep your fingers away from the LV button in that case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted June 19, 2014 Share #394 Posted June 19, 2014 Haha one reason I got the everready case instead of the half case: the bottom half has that nifty magnetic back flap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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