sc_rufctr Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4001 Posted January 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) LOL! You read 4000 posts in an A7R thread and then complained you're sick of posts about the A7R - in that same thread! Whatever. Defend away gallant knight. You make a valid point but I was actually referring the many other post about the A7R in other threads and how FANTASTIC it is. Apologies, I should have been clearer in my earlier post. The fact is it isn't... I'm sure it's a fine camera with it's legacy lenses but as soon as you adapt it to take other older manual focus lenses the process becomes clumsy and not as straight forward as you may imagine. IMO... Manual focusing through an EVF is overrated to say the least. For me photography is about taking pictures. I like to keep things simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Hi sc_rufctr, Take a look here The Sony A7 thread [Merged]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
k-hawinkler Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4002 Posted January 1, 2014 LOL! You read 4000 posts in an A7R thread and then complained you're sick of posts about the A7R - in that same thread! Whatever. Defend away gallant knight. Indeed, Don Quixote comes to mind. In the same spirit here you find a shot of my WATE taken with the A7R and a 1.12 m Leica lens combination. The GetDPI Photography Forums - View Single Post - A7r - and why I'm keeping it ... What about motion blur? Great question! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4003 Posted January 1, 2014 What about motion blur? Great question! Well, when I'm moved, my vision blurs often, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4004 Posted January 1, 2014 Once you have set up the A7 it is pretty easy to use and in fact the menu system seems to be a vast improvement on what I have come across before from Sony. I am using the A7 (not the R) almost exclusively wight he sony/zeiss 55 f1.8 and it is a fantastic combo with amazing IQ. the only other lens I really use on it is the CV35/1.2 v2 which seems to work very well. wide angle lenses I will only use on the M as it is obviously a lot better in this area. I now carry the M with the 28 cron and the A7 with the 55 and am happy with this working combination. After selling both my M9's to finance the M I just couldn't really afford or justify another M body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4005 Posted January 1, 2014 Can you get the files to match in postprocessing, David? In a presentation it can be a bit jarring to have images of different (colour) character side by side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4006 Posted January 1, 2014 Not really a problem so far as most of what I do is converted to B&W. So far I am liking the A7 colours and rendering, also I find having the same size sensor as the M is useful as file size is the same and the look seem to be really quite similar. Anyway I have never been one to get colour obsessed just as different films render in different ways so do sensors and I just learn to deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4007 Posted January 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) YFor me photography is about taking pictures. I like to keep things simple. Subjective reasoning indeed. Your complicated may be my simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4008 Posted January 1, 2014 Has anyone shot the Elmarit R 19mm version II on an A7R? Comments... results? My interest is in composition with very close focus, but red edges are ugly at any distance Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4009 Posted January 1, 2014 Alan thanks. I got such an arm a couple of days ago but hesitate to use it on my carbon fiber Gitzo tripod because I am afraid I will crack a tripod leg with the clamp. Any recommendations for a solid metal tripod so I can use my Manfrotto long lens support with clamp? Thanks again and a Happy New Year. As you are well aware, shooting with 1000mm+ focal lengths is most demanding on the support. Yes you can't clamp to carbon fiber which is the main reason I don't have a carbon fiber tripod. Plus I have no reason to save weight on a tripod since I am not hiking with it. You would think they could make some kind of clamp that goes smoothly around a CF leg sort of how cf bikes clamp a seat post. I have several metal tripods and use the largest metal Gitzo - Tele Studex Giant when I need maximum stability. You might want to look at the Induro tripods. They are similar to Gitzos and are less expensive by far. I've used one pretty heavily for my interior shooting for several years and it has held up very well. I chose that model because it has a built in side arm feature. I also have several Linhof tripods in various sizes but don't use them much despite being very nice tripods since the Induro has better features for me and I am using only 35mm cameras with short lenses inside. This looks like the largest alloy Induro: Induro AT413 ALLOY 8M AT-Series Tripods | Cat #472-413 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4010 Posted January 1, 2014 BTW, the Induro AlloyFlex that I use, the one where the center column can be used as a side, arm is no longer available. Not that you were looking for that feature but it is the main reason I chose it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/214267-the-sony-a7-thread-merged/?do=findComment&comment=2499651'>More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 1, 2014 Share #4011 Posted January 1, 2014 Just thought I'd stop by and see if anybody was still left here that hadn't returned or sold their A7R yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4012 Posted January 2, 2014 Just thought I'd stop by and see if anybody was still left here that hadn't returned or sold their A7R yet. Just a quick question......... Why did you buy it in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4013 Posted January 2, 2014 Just a quick question......... Why did you buy it in the first place? Ok, fair enough. I'll keep this post to why I bought it and not why I sold it. I guess by now everyone is aware of the reasons a lot of us bailed on it. Here we go. Originally, it was marketed as being able to work with other manufacturers lenses and it was touted as having offset microlenses. I was up at 11:30 pm and tuned into the live video of the release. It sounded like it could take all of my M lenses and the R lenses that I own on a better sensor. I was over to B&H at the end of the release and had it bought 5 minutes after that. Also, sites live Steve Huff stated that the EVF + focus mag. + focus peeking made M lenses easier and faster to focus than on my M. Also, it was reported that although some lenses may need some corner fixing in PP it should be great for M lenses. Further, it seems that Sony had moved forward into the age of Apps that could be used to make corrections in-camera. For many reasons, like these, I thought it could replace my M. Figured I'd sell the M if it all worked out. Maybe, just wait and shoot the Sony A7R and see what Leica brought in a few years. After all, I had the good glass. Thought I just needed a sensor. Next, dwbell and I exchanged many emails about the advancement of electronics that Sony could offer. It seemed like the way forward. By the way, my post was actually a post to dwbell as I saw he had just recently posted above. Figured it would be a good set up for him to unleash some cleaver retort. We actually see eye to eye on a lot of this when we exchange emails. He actually isn't nearly as irritating off the forum. Next, I thought it was going to be more compact. Once you start adding an adaptor it ends up being longer than my M. Oh, it was my impression that adaptors are just a commodity and would not be problematic. I didn't really understand the limited number of native Sony lenses that were available and mostly didn't understand that I'd need to rely on these lenses instead of my Leica glass. We all know how the story of the M lenses turned out. So, next, I decided I would keep it for just my R lenses and it would be the perfect high MP back. This was also part of the plan incase it didn't work with my M lenses. I shot the second week I had the A7R with just R-lenses. But, I couldn't seem to get consistently sharp images with the A7R + R-lenses. And, without getting into it, we now know why. Next, the price was right. Lastly, for a lot of reasons I believed it was a very compelling camera. There you go. Tried to just state a few of the reasons I bought it. How did I do? I actually announced I sold it pages back and stated I wouldn't write a long blog about why... and I didn't. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4014 Posted January 2, 2014 Ok, fair enough. I'll keep this post to why I bought it and not why I sold it. I guess by now everyone is aware of the reasons a lot of us bailed on it. Here we go. Originally, it was marketed as being able to work with other manufacturers lenses and it was touted as having offset microlenses. I was up at 11:30 pm and tuned into the live video of the release. It sounded like it could take all of my M lenses and the R lenses that I own on a better sensor. I was over to B&H at the end of the release and had it bought 5 minutes after that. Also, sites live Steve Huff stated that the EVF + focus mag. + focus peeking made M lenses easier and faster to focus than on my M. Also, it was reported that although some lenses may need some corner fixing in PP it should be great for M lenses. Further, it seems that Sony had moved forward into the age of Apps that could be used to make corrections in-camera. For many reasons, like these, I thought it could replace my M. Figured I'd sell the M if it all worked out. Maybe, just wait and shoot the Sony A7R and see what Leica brought in a few years. After all, I had the good glass. Thought I just needed a sensor. Next, dwbell and I exchanged many emails about the advancement of electronics that Sony could offer. It seemed like the way forward. By the way, my post was actually a post to dwbell as I saw he had just recently posted above. Figured it would be a good set up for him to unleash some cleaver retort. We actually see eye to eye on a lot of this when we exchange emails. He actually isn't nearly as irritating off the forum. Next, I thought it was going to be more compact. Once you start adding an adaptor it ends up being longer than my M. Oh, it was my impression that adaptors are just a commodity and would not be problematic. I didn't really understand the limited number of native Sony lenses that were available and mostly didn't understand that I'd need to rely on these lenses instead of my Leica glass. We all know how the story of the M lenses turned out. So, next, I decided I would keep it for just my R lenses and it would be the perfect high MP back. This was also part of the plan incase it didn't work with my M lenses. I shot the second week I had the A7R with just R-lenses. But, I couldn't seem to get consistently sharp images with the A7R + R-lenses. And, without getting into it, we now know why. Next, the price was right. Lastly, for a lot of reasons I believed it was a very compelling camera. There you go. Tried to just state a few of the reasons I bought it. How did I do? I actually announced I sold it pages back and stated I wouldn't write a long blog about why... and I didn't. Rick You have a PM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4015 Posted January 2, 2014 Has anyone shot the Elmarit R 19mm version II on an A7R? Comments... results? My interest is in composition with very close focus, but red edges are ugly at any distance Peter I have that lens, but started with my 15/2.8 R before that lens since I use the 15 more than the 19. I could not get rid of the fuzziness with the 15 and did not even try the 19. I tried many longer R lenses too with too much fuzziness when compared to my M240. I sent it back after about one week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4016 Posted January 2, 2014 I have sent you a pm ref. mirror lens R 500/8. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4017 Posted January 2, 2014 Just thought I'd stop by and see if anybody was still left here that hadn't returned or sold their A7R yet. Would it make a difference to you? As I recall, you were casting serious doubt on this camera before you bought it, and sent it back ... It's an interesting exercise. I find the results between 21mm and 90mm acceptable, but then my standards are really low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4018 Posted January 2, 2014 By the way, my post was actually a post to dwbell as I saw he had just recently posted above. Rick I only come in here any more to check K-H's excellent long lens feedback. Been shooting the crap out of my A7R and 35 & 55 lenses. Outstanding system. Haven't touched the M240 since then, so no real need to be here anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4019 Posted January 2, 2014 Ok, fair enough. I'll keep this post to why I bought it and not why I sold it. I guess by now everyone is aware of the reasons a lot of us bailed on it. Here we go. Originally, it was marketed as being able to work with other manufacturers lenses and it was touted as having offset microlenses. I was up at 11:30 pm and tuned into the live video of the release. It sounded like it could take all of my M lenses and the R lenses that I own on a better sensor. I was over to B&H at the end of the release and had it bought 5 minutes after that. Also, sites live Steve Huff stated that the EVF + focus mag. + focus peeking made M lenses easier and faster to focus than on my M. Also, it was reported that although some lenses may need some corner fixing in PP it should be great for M lenses. Further, it seems that Sony had moved forward into the age of Apps that could be used to make corrections in-camera. For many reasons, like these, I thought it could replace my M. Figured I'd sell the M if it all worked out. Maybe, just wait and shoot the Sony A7R and see what Leica brought in a few years. After all, I had the good glass. Thought I just needed a sensor. Next, dwbell and I exchanged many emails about the advancement of electronics that Sony could offer. It seemed like the way forward. By the way, my post was actually a post to dwbell as I saw he had just recently posted above. Figured it would be a good set up for him to unleash some cleaver retort. We actually see eye to eye on a lot of this when we exchange emails. He actually isn't nearly as irritating off the forum. Next, I thought it was going to be more compact. Once you start adding an adaptor it ends up being longer than my M. Oh, it was my impression that adaptors are just a commodity and would not be problematic. I didn't really understand the limited number of native Sony lenses that were available and mostly didn't understand that I'd need to rely on these lenses instead of my Leica glass. We all know how the story of the M lenses turned out. So, next, I decided I would keep it for just my R lenses and it would be the perfect high MP back. This was also part of the plan incase it didn't work with my M lenses. I shot the second week I had the A7R with just R-lenses. But, I couldn't seem to get consistently sharp images with the A7R + R-lenses. And, without getting into it, we now know why. Next, the price was right. Lastly, for a lot of reasons I believed it was a very compelling camera. There you go. Tried to just state a few of the reasons I bought it. How did I do? I actually announced I sold it pages back and stated I wouldn't write a long blog about why... and I didn't. Rick Identical to my experience ....... ..... the only difference is that I have given it a 'stay of execution' till I have tried the native Zeiss 55/1.8 ...... which I would have had by now if I hadn't been out of the country when they emailed to say it was in stock ......and then flogged it to someone else because they had no instant reply ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted January 2, 2014 Share #4020 Posted January 2, 2014 I have that lens, but started with my 15/2.8 R before that lens since I use the 15 more than the 19. I could not get rid of the fuzziness with the 15 and did not even try the 19. I tried many longer R lenses too with too much fuzziness when compared to my M240. I sent it back after about one week. Lou, when you say "fuzziness," are you referring to soft/ smeared periphery of the image? I imagine you controlled for shutter shake, so your evaluation was based on the clear superiority of M240 full frame, and not just in center? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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