I like film...(open thread)

[Prosophos]

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• Leica M3
• Voigtländer 35mm f/2
• Kodak Portra 400

—Peter.

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Maybe a worthwhile information for those of you considering Silbersalz35 Cinefilm. Tried their 500T (@ 250) - but used it mostly for daylight and without 85 filter (on purpose).

Now working on their scans (great quality IMO) in Adobe LR Classic I've achieved mixed results so far, depending on lighting and subject.

In some cases really struggling with a (to my taste) pleasing white balance, in others I really like the colors, the sharpness, the grain structure ...

As an example (for one of the more challenging subjects) FYI:

 

"Slow Day or Everything so Colorful Here", Plaza de la Corredera, Cazorla, Jaén, España

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Nikon F2A, Nikkor 28mm f/2 Ais, Silbersalz35 500T, Labscan

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... one more providing maybe a better impression of the character this film stock will give in more distinct lighting conditions (at noon):

 

"Don Quijote's Approaching Just Around The Corner", Consuegra, La Mancha, España

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Nikon F2A, Nikkor 28mm f/2 Ais, Silbersalz35 500T, Labscan

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[Kl@usW.]

vor 23 Stunden schrieb Ernest:

Sifting
MDa Summaron-M 28 & Tele-Rolleiflex Portra 800

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Rog, when I saw this, I felt the same excitement that befalls me when I see a kingfisher on the river.... these are the colors of the bird rushing by

vor 13 Stunden schrieb romquest:

Brooklyn Bridge and Twin Towers on pushed TX. Taken on the 100th anniversary of the building of the bridge. 

 

romquest, great picture. Usually, in my landscape pictures , I try to avoid much grain--but you show that it may be a good thing.   Btw: huge moon--telephoto ? 

vor 11 Stunden schrieb stray cat:

Recently, for lack of new photographs, I decided to scan all the photographs I'd taken from one particular roll. Pictures on the roll mainly represented the extraordinary light that visited one evening back in 1988 when we were in Portugal. The light, the location, and the complete absence of people (though not of chickens and dogs) lent the whole evening an extraordinary atmosphere which made it one of those magical times you happen to be out and about with a camera. Anyway, I thought I'd post one of the pictures which just happens to be the only one where some horrible developing chemical sludge has deposited on top right of the negative. I've tried re-fixing it, cleaning it with isopropyl alcohol etc but the sludge is still there, burned into the emulsion (at this time we were sending finished rolls back to Australia to be processed, then they were sent to my Mum and Dad so we didn't see these pictures for nearly a year.) Sludge aside, the negatives are still lovely to work with and I can still remember, clearly, wandering around that evening, looking for and lining up the shots.

ferragudo, portugal 1988

canon A1, 35mm f2, fp4, yellow filter

Phil, I like your little story about your feelings walking around with the camera and everything falls into its place... In my experience you can't really produce this mental condition, but you can invite it, and if you are lucky, the flow will come. 

 

vor 4 Stunden schrieb contrelamontre:

Maybe a worthwhile information for those of you considering Silbersalz35 Cinefilm. Tried their 500T (@ 250) - but used it mostly for daylight and without 85 filter (on purpose).

Now working on their scans (great quality IMO) in Adobe LR Classic I've achieved mixed results so far, depending on lighting and subject.

In some cases really struggling with a (to my taste) pleasing white balance, in others I really like the colors, the sharpness, the grain structure ...

As an example (for one of the more challenging subjects) FYI:

 

"Slow Day or Everything so Colorful Here", Plaza de la Corredera, Cazorla, Jaén, España

Nikon F2A, Nikkor 28mm f/2 Ais, Silbersalz35 500T, Labscan

Very nice, Contrelamontre. To be honest, I like the picture as it is. Silbersalz or not. 

[Kl@usW.]

 

Ayl on the river Saar, a well known name  for the Riesling aficionados.   ( once a year, a little group of the former  eye clinic fellows  meet for a weekend of walking, talking and having a glass of wine ...  this is where we met in 21 ) 

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MP, Summarit 2,4/35; Pan F

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[romquest]

Kl@us W. Says: "romquest, great picture. Usually, in my landscape pictures , I try to avoid much grain--but you show that it may be a good thing.   Btw: huge moon--telephoto ? "

Yes, good catch, I was hoping someone would notice. The moon was behind me against a dark sky, so I shot the first 8 frames of a roll with just the moon in the right upper corner, and since the sky was dark I carefully rewound then rethreaded the roll in my M4-P,  turned the camera around and shot the lighter sky to the west with the moon double exposed into the position in wanted. Yes i used a longer lens for the moon, and I did it all in camera ( it was the 80s, we did everything in camera, though it was possible to do the same trick with an enlarger. )

Yes, we tend to celebrate sharp images on the forums, but grain can lend an emotional component. Bottom line, I shoot film pushed whenever I need to, and If the picture works, it will not be an issue, and may sometimes make the image better, in my opinion. 

[chrism]

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Continuing to try to make 35mm look as good as MF. This was Plus-X rated at 400, developed in Diafine, and shot through an Olympus OM-2n with an 85mm/f2 lens. One strobe from the left, and a continuous light on the backdrop to soften the shadow. 1/60 @ f5.6.

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[Prosophos]

42 minutes ago, chrism said:

Continuing to try to make 35mm look as good as MF. This was Plus-X rated at 400, developed in Diafine, and shot through an Olympus OM-2n with an 85mm/f2 lens. One strobe from the left, and a continuous light on the backdrop to soften the shadow. 1/60 @ f5.6.

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Whether MF can be replicated with 35mm film is open to debate of course.  For what it's worth, I've never been able to do it.   Having said that, if you had posted this and told me it was taken with a Rolleiflex 2.8, I may have believed you (I see how much you've paid attention to the light). 

I suppose (and this may be because I *do* know it was done on 35mm), I could say that the tonal gradations in MF would be more "rich"/subtle.

However -- and this is the main reason I'm responding -- I just want to tell you this is a very sensitively done and moving portrait.  Congratulations.

—Peter.

 

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[adan]

57 minutes ago, Prosophos said:

if you had posted this and told me it was taken with a Rolleiflex 2.8, I may have believed you

...well, maybe if shot on Kodak Royal-X Pan pushed to EI 4000 (nominal ASA/ISO of 1250). Extremely grainy for 6x6 otherwise.

https://www.mikeeckman.com/2020/03/kepplers-vault-57-kodak-royal-x-pan/

I used RX 120 - once - for part of a low-light documentary on a long-gone indoors marketplace (Les Halles-style) in 1974. Never bothered with it again - defeated the whole purpose of a larger negative.

[Ernest]

5 hours ago, Kl@usW. said:

 

Ayl on the river Saar, a well known name  for the Riesling aficionados.   ( once a year, a little group of the former  eye clinic fellows  meet for a weekend of walking, talking and having a glass of wine ...  this is where we met in 21 ) 

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MP, Summarit 2,4/35; Pan F

I am really quite smitten with the way you play foreground and background that gives us a sense of space and dimension. The atmospheric perspective of the distant mountains helps, too.

[mikemgb]

 

On September 22nd I hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim, I took a Pentax Espio and a couple of rolls of slide film with me, the photos are the Grand Canyon from the inside.

I'm going to rescan these tomorrow, the first one at least should be a lot sharper.

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[chrism]

2 hours ago, adan said:

...well, maybe if shot on Kodak Royal-X Pan pushed to EI 4000 (nominal ASA/ISO of 1250). Extremely grainy for 6x6 otherwise.

I may have to dispose of a roll of XP2 in a Pen-FV with a trio of new lenses (20mm/f3.5, 40mm/f1.2 and 60mm/f1.5) first, but if they don't come on time and my subject recovers, I also have a new 6x6 250mm/f5.6 lens to try out. As I don't have any Plus-X in 120 format I don't suppose there is anything I can do to moderate your critique of extreme graininess, unless frozen TMax 100 would compare? I know perfectly well I cannot break the laws of physics. But I can use extreme cases where the optics and chemistry of 35mm film are so close to the qualities of 120 film that, as my physics professor used to intone in a Yorkshire accent "it's as near as makes no difference". He had a huge ginger beard and his name was Baker. Cream fans will understand what we called him.

Barkis is willin', here, but needs some forewarning as films and cameras are forming a queue, and I post in order here to avoid double posts and confusion! In the interim, will this from the same roll of film shave closely to MF quality?

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I know, I'm being silly. If I want MF, use MF. If I want LF, use LF. I can do that. But there is some fun in trying to make the smaller and cheaper be so close to the larger and more expensive that it's "as near as makes no difference". No?

[ironhorse]

23 hours ago, romquest said:

Brooklyn Bridge and Twin Towers on pushed TX. Taken on the 100th anniversary of the building of the bridge. 

 

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This is an absolutely wonderful photo with beautiful composition. Not only are the twin towers gone, but you can no longer see the Woolworth building from this view since there is a skyscraper now in front of it. One of my favorite photos of the bridge and skyline. 

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[romquest]

8 minutes ago, ironhorse said:

This is an absolutely wonderful photo with beautiful composition. Not only are the twin towers gone, but you can no longer see the Woolworth building from this view since there is a skyscraper now in front of it. One of my favorite photos of the bridge and skyline. 

Thanks so much, yes it was a different time, and today's skyline is quite haphazard, sadly. Enjoy!

[adan]

2 hours ago, chrism said:

I know, I'm being silly. If I want MF, use MF. If I want LF, use LF. I can do that. But there is some fun in trying to make the smaller and cheaper be so close to the larger and more expensive that it's "as near as makes no difference". No?

No problem there - I was mostly commenting on the reaction of "believing" it could be a Rollei picture.

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poppy 1989

nikon, 60mm micro, agfapan 25

[Erato]

10 minutes ago, stray cat said:

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poppy 1989

nikon, 60mm micro, agfapan 25

Well done. Remarkable details and pleasant tonality. 

Agfa Pan 25 is one of my favorite. But it's hard to get right now.

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Well done. Remarkable details and pleasant tonality. 

Agfa Pan 25 is one of my favorite. But it's hard to get right now.

Thank you Erato, I really appreciate that. I haven't seen Agfapan 25 for many years. It was my favourite film, too, and I wish it was still available. 

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