farnz Posted June 12, 2013 Share #41 Posted June 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... I won't be buying a Leica with a cropped sensor and a fixed, slow AF zoom lens. ... Sounds like Leica won't be able to count you among its customers for the Leica X Vario that it announced today, John. (Me neither.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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erl Posted June 12, 2013 Share #42 Posted June 12, 2013 Pete, we all know the reason you won't be a customer for the vario x is because you have too damn much good stuff already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 12, 2013 Share #43 Posted June 12, 2013 Sounds like Leica won't be able to count you among its customers for the Leica X Vario that it announced today, John. (Me neither.) Pete. I got a bit excited that this camera might have been the Gap Filler (the teaser seemed to suggest that it would fill the significant gap between the M cameras and the X). I did say at the time that I would probably be wrong on this camera, as I was on every other Leica release to date ... So, I canceled my order, and looked at the shelf at home (M9-P, Monochrom & M3 and a nice clutch of Leica's best glass) and decided I have enough already. I've given my NEX to my son - he's very happy about that! If I do decide to get a smaller camera, it will be an RX-1. Don't need it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 12, 2013 Share #44 Posted June 12, 2013 John, what you do need is more pictures. Your stable is already comfortably filled. Now go fill your gallery! (I hear an echo of 'pots calling kettles ......' in the distance.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 12, 2013 Share #45 Posted June 12, 2013 John, what you do need is more pictures.Your stable is already comfortably filled. Now go fill your gallery! True! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfunnell Posted June 12, 2013 Share #46 Posted June 12, 2013 Now we know why the M240's are slow to show up. If these mini M's are in the camera shops and ready to delivery today . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 12, 2013 Share #47 Posted June 12, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pete, we all know the reason you won't be a customer for the vario x is because you have too damn much good stuff already! Thanks for the compliment, Erl, but there's a flaw in your argument. One can never, ever have too much good stuff. I just wish I could shoot as well as you do, results and 'technique'. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 12, 2013 Share #48 Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for the compliment, Erl, but there's a flaw in your argument. One can never, ever have too much good stuff. I just wish I could shoot as well as you do, results and 'technique'. Pete. Pete, the flaw in your argument is that you ignore the ceiling! Rest assured I have been watching your posts and your imaging is definitely up to a standard I admire. As for technique, well that is something that is personal to each of us. Results indicate the level of technique.Clearly yours is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted July 10, 2013 Share #49 Posted July 10, 2013 Dropping the R system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted July 11, 2013 Share #50 Posted July 11, 2013 If they move too far from the core of the M and what genuinely differentiates it. Every time I see a picture of the new M with an Olympus EVF I feel uncomfortable. Diluting the essence of the M loses focus IMO (pun intended!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 11, 2013 Share #51 Posted July 11, 2013 If they move too far from the core of the M and what genuinely differentiates it. Every time I see a picture of the new M with an Olympus EVF I feel uncomfortable. Diluting the essence of the M loses focus IMO (pun intended!) I agree. That EVF is both out of place and it's an eye sore. As is that bloody movie button and microphone. I don't see why the M had to change from the M9 beyond iq improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 11, 2013 Share #52 Posted July 11, 2013 Because it can be used w/o video and live view as you like. Just consider the EVF as a small Visoflex. Nobody has to buy it and it takes little room in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 11, 2013 Share #53 Posted July 11, 2013 I agree. That EVF is both out of place and it's an eye sore .... Why is it more objectionable than an external viewfinder? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 11, 2013 Share #54 Posted July 11, 2013 Why is it more objectionable than an external viewfinder?... An external VF is much more elegant and discrete than the eye sore EVF to be honest. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205712-sticking-with-future-leicaswhat-is-a-deal-breaker-for-you/?do=findComment&comment=2372050'>More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 11, 2013 Share #55 Posted July 11, 2013 The Frankenfinder might be an eyesore to some bit it is a marvelous device in and of itself. If people would pay as much attention to the look of the photograph and not the cosmetics of the device it would mean success and advancement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 12, 2013 Share #56 Posted July 12, 2013 HCB must have worked for 15-20 years with this other beauty. Not a monster like the Frankenfinder (sorry jdlaing ) but still bigger than my EVF. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205712-sticking-with-future-leicaswhat-is-a-deal-breaker-for-you/?do=findComment&comment=2372246'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 12, 2013 Share #57 Posted July 12, 2013 If they move too far from the core of the M and what genuinely differentiates it. Every time I see a picture of the new M with an Olympus EVF I feel uncomfortable. Diluting the essence of the M loses focus IMO (pun intended!) I can fully understand the uncomfortable feeling, In fact, I share it. But the darn thing is so practical. I console myself with the thought that it is a lot less intrusive than the Visoflex:rolleyes:. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 12, 2013 Share #58 Posted July 12, 2013 Why is it more objectionable than an external viewfinder? Pete. It looks cheap as hell. IMO, of corse. Particularly on the silver body it looks like it doesn't belong. You can tell it's third party. Like buying a Bentley and putting a tacky, plastic aftermarket giant spoiler on it. Personally I think the Frankenfinder looks handsome, purposeful and well built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 12, 2013 Share #59 Posted July 12, 2013 practical. There is the saving grace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 12, 2013 Share #60 Posted July 12, 2013 If people would pay as much attention to the look of the photograph and not the cosmetics of the device it would mean success and advancement. Not so sure I agree with this. When a camera is inspiring and a joy to use you feel more wanting to use it for the sake of it. When you are 100% happy with it, ergonomically, it helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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