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The burning question for is whether the increased size of the body versus the X2 is to accommodate the new zoom or a bigger sensor.

 

I bet Leica will call it a "design trick". Well it covers that ugly X2 hotshoe and makes it more M looking. That may be all it is.

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The burning question for is whether the increased size of the body versus the X2 is to accommodate the new zoom or a bigger sensor.

 

All the sample images in the 'Paula' thread appear to be 16mpx. Make of that what you will, but APS-C seems likely.

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Brilliant move by Leica. Brilliant marketing too…

They announce a Mini-M camera. The rumors report it's a lame compact

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Maybe it's the Leica X with a mft Mount.

 

Would be at least a nice idea. Better than a fixed zoom lens.

 

And with Panasonic/Olympus there are a some nice lenses available and with adaptor a lot M Lenses to use also.

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Guys, the RX1 EVF is great. I recommend it over all the optical ones.

 

The RX1 was an experiment by Sony. It wasn't built down to a price. Sony engineers were told to build the smallest FF camera they could with the best components.

Sony then priced it appropriately, to make their standard margin.

The accessories are a bit overpriced but after using this camera for some months Sony can do no wrong in my eyes

BTW it was only £50 for a charger and spare battery kit from amazon.de.

I am using a JJC metal lens hood.

and hoya pro filter (B+W filters don't fit under hood as the rim is too thick).

 

Well, I prefer an optical OVF, and returned the EVF, because, while it is the best EVF to date, I still prefer using the OVF occasionally supplemented with the LCD.

 

I also don't think the RX1 was just an experiment, and I'll bet that the rumored new RX camera will simply be a different focal length, but still remain modular to use with the RX accessories, which I'm fine with.

 

I like the modular nature of the RX1. You can add grips, viewfinders, etc., and then strip it down for ultimate packability.

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Well... in a more soft way... if they have been satisfied of the sales of X series, a zoomed X is a natural prosecution... what is a bit disturbing / disillusioning is this viral blah around the M name... :o

 

Maybe not if the alleged/rumoured/stated Leica names are considered ie MAX MINI and MICRO all begin with M and all are Leica designs - as distinct from NANO which are modified Panasonic.

 

dunk

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so the difference between mini and micro is a zoom lens? doesn't make sense from a marketing perspective to put an X3 in a different class from an X2. hence, I would live to believe there is something different going to be announced. remember when we were all convinced the M10 was coming out on May 10 when it was the MM? who would've guess. Rumors aside, I still believe mini M is the M240 w/o the optical view finder. It is what would make the mini M mini

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It is M for Mediocre I am afraid.

 

A rather dogmatic comment considering we still do not know the exact specification of the new camera(s). When did Leica ever make a mediocre camera ... ie a Leica design as distinct from another manufacturer's modified design?

 

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A rather dogmatic comment considering we still do not know the exact specification of the new camera(s)

 

It's the X2 equivalent of the Minilux zoom in the film days - which had a short (35-70mm), slow (f3.5-6.3) zoom. I prefered the faster 40mm fixed lens, so I bought that camera rather than the zoom Minilux.

 

A faster zoom wouldn't be sensible on a camera of this size with a sensor of this size. The D2 - which has been mentioned several times - had a fast lens that was physically large, and that was for a much smaller sensor. How large would an equivalent lens need to be on an APS-C sensor? I once owned a full frame f2.8 constant aperture 28-80mm EOS lens. It was enormous, and heavy with it.

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If the lens would be a f/2 all the range, then this would be the best marketing campaign ever made

 

An f2 constant aperture lens would be enormous. Totally unpractical on a camera of this size with an APS-C sensor. That's before considering the cost of such a lens.

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