nibbler Posted May 28, 2013 Share #641 Posted May 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, let me be the first to say that I really like this camera. Sure, the lens is a bit on the slow side, but if it has excellent image quality it will make a fine back-up body for an M. The X2 has many fans and this will also. My biggest fear was a camera like this with a small sensor. I'll take a slow lens over a small sensor any day of the week. Now off to preorder from my dealer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iedei Posted May 28, 2013 Share #642 Posted May 28, 2013 i am now 90% sure the photo is fake. two main reasons: 1) The "Vario Elmar" lettering/font is incorrectly oriented on the rim of the lens, at that angle, the lettering of Leica at the top is oriented fine, but the Vario Elmar fonts are upside down.....the base of each letter should be oriented to the center of the lens. Compare to any Leica lens for orientation of lettering. We should be seeing the name upside down, rather than right side up... 2) the name "X Vario" printed on the top is an impossible name, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2013 Share #643 Posted May 28, 2013 I think the image is a fake. On the top plate of the camera there is the miniature round glass window which is used in the M9 to impute lens aperture opening... Looks like an AF assist lamp for low light i'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayGlaze379 Posted May 28, 2013 Share #644 Posted May 28, 2013 The picture on Leica's site has been changed. The corner of the 'mini' is visible now, looks pretty similar to the 'leak'. If nothing else, seems to prove there is no viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted May 28, 2013 Share #645 Posted May 28, 2013 Assuming this is a real product I have to wonder what they were smoking. Coming with a big lens like that was the only reason I did not buy the Nex 7 when it first came out. The collapsible 16-50 was the main selling point of the Nex 6 to me and I would not have bought it if that lens did not exist. (There were pros and cons for the Nex 6 body vs. the Nex 7.) Of course Sony sells a lot of Nex cameras with that larger 18-55 zoom so many people don't mind the bulk. But a Sony Nex 3n with the smaller and wider range 16-50 is only $450. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 28, 2013 Share #646 Posted May 28, 2013 I shouldn't be surprised if it's real (though its a good stunt if it is a fake). Instead of seizing an opportunity to do something cool, Leica tries to reinflate its moribund X2. The Paul Smith makeover can't have worked. It's a dud. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboch Posted May 28, 2013 Share #647 Posted May 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) i am now 90% sure the photo is fake. two main reasons: 1) The "Vario Elmar" lettering/font is incorrectly oriented on the rim of the lens, at that angle, the lettering of Leica at the top is oriented fine, but the Vario Elmar fonts are upside down.....the base of each letter should be oriented to the center of the lens. Compare to any Leica lens for orientation of lettering. We should be seeing the name upside down, rather than right side up... 2) the name "X Vario" printed on the top is an impossible name, IMO. Just wanted to post the same. The lettering on the lens has also some crazy placement and rotation... Looks "photoshopped" to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted May 28, 2013 Share #648 Posted May 28, 2013 i am now 90% sure the photo is fake. two main reasons: 1) The "Vario Elmar" lettering/font is incorrectly oriented on the rim of the lens, at that angle, the lettering of Leica at the top is oriented fine, but the Vario Elmar fonts are upside down.....the base of each letter should be oriented to the center of the lens. Compare to any Leica lens for orientation of lettering. We should be seeing the name upside down, rather than right side up... 2) the name "X Vario" printed on the top is an impossible name, IMO. Though I am not sure about the "impossible name", I agree with you about the writing on the front of the lens. And if you look at the "step" on the top, there is much more room between the hot-shoe and the wheel for the shutter. So the whole camera should be considerably broader than the X2 - which makes no sense looking at the specs given in the leak. It looks photoshopped - partly from an M9 and partly from an X2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted May 28, 2013 Share #649 Posted May 28, 2013 Well, let me be the first to say that I really like this camera. Sure, the lens is a bit on the slow side, but if it has excellent image quality it will make a fine back-up body for an M. The X2 has many fans and this will also. My biggest fear was a camera like this with a small sensor. I'll take a slow lens over a small sensor any day of the week. Now off to preorder from my dealer Honestly, this is a Canon G1X at 5X the price... only the G1X has a faster lens and came to market a year earlier. Sure, it would be a fine point and shoot to carry around, but I 'd rather use that $3,000 on another lens for my M system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted May 28, 2013 Share #650 Posted May 28, 2013 Well, let me be the first to say that I really like this camera. Sure, the lens is a bit on the slow side, but if it has excellent image quality it will make a fine back-up body for an M. The X2 has many fans and this will also. My biggest fear was a camera like this with a small sensor. I'll take a slow lens over a small sensor any day of the week. Now off to preorder from my dealer Dude, get yourself a Fuji X-E1 + 18-55 f/2.8-4 instead at under half the cost. 16.3 megapixels, no AA filter, excellent optics with image stabilization. And you can swap optics and even use your M mount lenses with an adapter. As a backup the Fuji is a far better alternative than this extremely overpriced APS-C compact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicologe Posted May 28, 2013 Share #651 Posted May 28, 2013 Just wanted to post the same. The lettering on the lens has also some crazy placement and rotation... Looks "photoshopped" to me... Unfortunately it seems real to me , when I look at the writing of the lens on the Digilux 2. best regards Thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted May 28, 2013 Share #652 Posted May 28, 2013 Mini M? With most lenses the M is still more pocketable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil U Posted May 28, 2013 Share #653 Posted May 28, 2013 i am now 90% sure the photo is fake. .... Compare to any Leica lens for orientation of lettering. We should be seeing the name upside down, rather than right side up.... Have a look at the summicron APO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted May 28, 2013 Share #654 Posted May 28, 2013 Unfortunately it seems real to me , when I look at the writing of the lens on the Digilux 2. best regards Thomas You are right: the Digilux-lenses were engraved this way. Neither the X-lens, nor the lenses for the D-Lux models are. The french description doesn't say "Asph." - the lens picture does. Well, we are used to misprints in brochures by Leica - though they prefer to add an "asph" where there is no - like for the Summarit-M lenses. Edit: Phil is right - the 50mm AA has the "wrong" engraving as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted May 28, 2013 Share #655 Posted May 28, 2013 Have a look at the summicron APO hmm...point taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianM Posted May 28, 2013 Share #656 Posted May 28, 2013 I just hope Leica hasn't flushed too much money down the toilet developing this one. They probably havent actually, this sounds like just an X2 with a different lens. What a disappointment..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 28, 2013 Share #657 Posted May 28, 2013 Well, let me be the first to say that I really like this camera. Sure, the lens is a bit on the slow side, but if it has excellent image quality it will make a fine back-up body for an M. The X2 has many fans and this will also. My biggest fear was a camera like this with a small sensor. I'll take a slow lens over a small sensor any day of the week. Now off to preorder from my dealer How would this camera be any better than the NEX-7? Not to mention having the ability to use your M lenses as well with an adaptor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted May 28, 2013 Share #658 Posted May 28, 2013 Yawn. I'm still waiting to get my hands on the new M let alone wondering about the M mini Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzer Posted May 28, 2013 Share #659 Posted May 28, 2013 funny, that the guy who faked this "leak" obviously had quite fun in photoshopping together the least wanted mini M... only to make us mad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Flores Posted May 28, 2013 Share #660 Posted May 28, 2013 This would be such a huge fail if they hyped up the Mini M and it ended up being this. Leica really needs to work on their speed, I know they are not Sony or even Fuji when it comes to size and ability to use cheaper labor, but if they're going to keep falling behind so badly in camera tech and specs they might as well cede every market other than their rangefinder and manual lenses. A FF mini M with no rangefinder and built in EVF that took M lenses, accepted future AF lenses, and had the same profit margin as their M 24O and could be produced more easily... wow... I guess that just made too much sense. If this leak is true, damn, such a disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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